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General Dynamics/Lockheed Martin F-16 Falcon

Diskurzus a(z) '4/4+/4.5 generációs vadászbombázók' témában - GrGLy által indítva @ 2013. január 6..

  1. szegcsab

    szegcsab Well-Known Member

    Pár jó kép török gépekről :

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  2. molnibalage

    molnibalage Well-Known Member

  3. molnibalage

    molnibalage Well-Known Member

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  4. fishbed

    fishbed Well-Known Member

    Ha belegondolok ,hogy a Mig-29 es flottához képest ez az egy gép mennyit repült. Nyelvem a könnyeim!
     
  5. pöcshuszár

    pöcshuszár Well-Known Member

  6. tonyo

    tonyo Well-Known Member

    Nem lesz abból semmi. Örülnek ha egyáltalán azt a 8 db gépet pilótástól fent fogják tudni tartani. Szerintem már az amcsik is unhaták részben az állandó nyafogást. Ezért engedhetek is az árból. Plusz a horvátok felé jelzés értékű is lehet. De azok inkább maradnának a használtnál. A többinél ha lesz feltéve, már nem lesznek ilyen elnézőek.
     
  7. nyugger

    nyugger Well-Known Member

    Mivel F-16 orrmakettel tesztelték így úgy gondolom elfér itt
     
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  8. tonyo

    tonyo Well-Known Member

  9. molnibalage

    molnibalage Well-Known Member

    De az. Csak minden drága, ha ilyen keveset vesz belőle az ember. William Perry mondta azt a B-2 ára kapcsán, hogy ha valaki felhúz egy gyárat és csak 20 db autót gyárt le benne, akkor az a Chevy is jó drága lenne. Ez a repülőgépeknél is így van...

    Megvenni és hadrendbe állítani egy zsír új típus első 10 darabját és lezárni az nem kerül fajlagos annyiba, mint a 660. példány után átvenni a 661-670 közöttieket. Ez van, ez ilyen sport.
     
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  10. Anti

    Anti Well-Known Member

    "A csomag fegyverzeti része is jelentős: 16 AIM-120C7 AMRAAM, 24 AIM-9X Sidewinder, 48 LAU-129-es rakétaindító konténer, 15-15 GBU-49 Enhanced Paveway II és GBU-54 Laser JDAM irányítókészlet, 28 GBU-39 SDB-1 irányított bomba és 24 Mk-82-es, 228 kg-os (500 fontos) bomba."

    Mi van? :D
     
  11. Anti

    Anti Well-Known Member

    Amerikaiak nem csak egyszerűen úgy vannak vele hogy minél kisebb és kiszolgáltatottabb egy ország annál jobban megfejik - ha szövetséges ha nem?
     
  12. molnibalage

    molnibalage Well-Known Member

    Ilyen is kirajzolódik, de ez egész egyszerűen az amerikai modell része is. A beszerzés sokba fáj, aztán az üzemeltetés már olcsóbb. Nincs szétkenve az ár, mint a svédek lízing modelljénél.
     
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  13. molnibalage

    molnibalage Well-Known Member

  14. rudi

    rudi Well-Known Member

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  15. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    Avianoban tortent...

     
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  16. arbalest

    arbalest Well-Known Member

  17. tonyo

    tonyo Well-Known Member

  18. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    Tajvan
    66 db F-16 Block70
    8 milliárd USD (~ 2360 milliárd HUF)
    pótalkatrésszel és supporttal


    August 20, 2019 -

    The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to TECRO for the 66 F-16C/D Block 70 aircraft and related equipment and support for an estimated cost of $8 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

    TECRO has requested to purchase sixty-six (66) F-16C/D Block 70 aircraft; seventy-five (75) F110 General Electric Engines (includes 9 spares); seventy-five (75) Link-16 Systems (includes 9 spares); seventy-five (75) Improved Programmable Display Generators (iPDG) (includes 9 spares); seventy-five (75) APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars (includes 9 spares); seventy-five (75) Modular Mission Computers 7000AH (includes 9 spares); seventy-five (75) LN-260 Embedded GPS/INS (includes 9 spares); seventy-five (75) M61 Vulcan 20mm Guns (includes 9 spares); one-hundred thirty-eight (138) LAU-129 Multipurpose Launchers; six (6) FMU-139D/B Fuze for Guided Bombs; six (6) FMU-139D/B Inert Fuze for Guided Bombs; six (6) FMU 152 Fuze for Guided Bombs: six (6) MK-82 Filled Inert Bombs for Guided Bombs; and three (3) KMU-572 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) Tail Kits, GBU-38/54. Also included are seventy-five (75) AN/ALE-47 Countermeasure Dispensers (includes 9 spares); one-hundred twenty (120) ALE-50 towed decoy or equivalent; seventy-five (75) APX-126 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (includes 9 spares); seventy five (75) AN/ALQ-211 A(V)4 Airborne Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite (AIDEWS) or equivalent (includes 9 spares); EW Line Replaceable Unit (LRU) and Standard Electronic Module (SEM) spares; one hundred fifty (150) ARC-238 radios (includes 18 spares); Secure Communications and Cryptographic Appliques including seventy-three (73) KIV-78 cryptographic COMSEC devices, and ten (10) AN/PYQ-10 Simple Key Loaders (SKLs) for COMSEC; three (3) Joint Mission Planning Systems (JMPS); twenty-seven (27) Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS) II with Night Vision Device (NVD) compatibility or Scorpion Hybrid Optical-based Inertial Tracker (HOblT) helmet mounted cueing system with NVD compatibility; seventy (70) NVDs; six (6) NVD spare image intensifier tubes; Cartridge Actuated Devices/Propellant Actuated Devices (CAD/PAD); cartridges; chaff; flares; three (3) each DSU-38A/B Precision Laser Guidance Sensor (PLGS) for GBU-54 Laser Joint Direct Attack Munition (LJDAM) integration; PGU-28A/B 20mm ammunition; telemetry units for integration and test; bomb components; twenty (20) ground debriefing stations; Electronic Combat International Security Assistance Program (ECISAP) support including EW database and Mission Data File (MDF) development (classified/unclassified); communications equipment; classified/unclassified spares, repair, support equipment, test equipment, software delivery/support, personnel training, training equipment, flight/tactics manuals, publications and technical documentation; bomb racks; Organizational, Intermediate and Depot level tooling; Pilot Life Support Equipment (PLSE); Alternate Mission Equipment (AME); ground training devices (including flight and maintenance simulators); containers; development, integration, test and engineering, technical and logistical support of munitions; aircraft ferry; studies and surveys; construction services; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistical support services; and other related elements of logistics, program and sustainment support. The total estimated program cost is $8 billion.

    The principle contractor will be Lockheed Martin, headquartered in Bethesda, MD. There are no known offset agreements proposed. The purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement would be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor(s).


    TECRO: Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the United States
     
  19. fedett_mókus

    fedett_mókus Well-Known Member

    ha jó a matekom akkor leosztva kb 120 millió USD/gép , "nem jó de nem is tragikus"
     
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  20. weasel007

    weasel007 Well-Known Member

    Én is kiszámoltam :p
     
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