Mert nincs kb 20 éve gyártás, mert kb 8000 van letárolva a sivatagban és ha újítani akarnak gyakorlatilag kikonzerválják és újjáépítik őket.
Van egy rész a gyáróriások című sorozatból ami erről szól.
Román haderőfejlesztési program 2025
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Ha nem vagy kibékülve az alapértelmezettnek beállított sötét sablonnal, akkor a korábbi ígéretnek megfelelően bármikor átválthatsz a korábbi világos színekkel dolgozó kinézetre.
Ehhez görgess a lap aljára és a baloldalon keresd a HTKA Dark feliratú gombot. Kattints rá, majd a megnyíló ablakban válaszd a HTKA Light lehetőséget. Választásod a böngésződ elmenti cookie-ba, így amikor legközelebb érkezel ezt a műveletsort nem kell megismételned. -
Az elmúlt időszak tapasztalatai alapján házirendet kapott a topic.
Ezen témában - a fórumon rendhagyó módon - az oldal üzemeltetője saját álláspontja, meggyőződése alapján nem enged bizonyos véleményeket, mivel meglátása szerint az káros a járványhelyzet enyhítését célzó törekvésekre.
Kérünk, hogy a vírus veszélyességét kétségbe vonó, oltásellenes véleményed más platformon fejtsd ki. Nálunk ennek nincs helye. Az ilyen hozzászólásokért 1 alkalommal figyelmeztetés jár, majd folytatása esetén a témáról letiltás. Arra is kérünk, hogy a fórum más témáiba ne vigyétek át, mert azért viszont már a fórum egészéről letiltás járhat hosszabb-rövidebb időre.
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Az elmúlt időszak tapasztalatai alapján frissített házirendet kapott a topic.
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Ami nem a topik témájába vág vagy akár csak erősebb hangnemben is kerül megfogalmazásra, az valamilyen formában szankcionálva lesz
Minden olyan hozzászólásért ami nem hír, vagy szorosan a konfliktushoz kapcsolódó vélemény / elemzés azért instant 3 nap topic letiltás jár. Aki pedig ezzel trükközne és folytatná másik topicban annak 2 hónap fórum ban a jussa.
Van egy rész a gyáróriások című sorozatból ami erről szól.
Románia kész akár a kovetkezo évben aláírni az F-35-osokrol szolló szerzodést. Az elso század 2030 után lenne meg:
Románia Abrams-ek beszerzésében gondolkodik
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Egy egész zászlóalj Abrams harckocsi érkezhet Romániába
A román védelmi minisztérium (MAPN) amerikai Abrams típusú harckocsik beszerzéséhez kéri a parlament előzetes jóváhagyását, ugyanakkor a haditengerészet harci képességeit is fejleszteni akarja - jelentette be Teodor Incicas altábornagy, a román hadsereg fegyverzetellátási főigazgatóságának...
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Románia új lőporgyárat épít USA-val és Dél-Koreával együttműködésben. Az utolsó román lőporgyárat 2004-ben bezárták, azóta importra szorultak.
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Romania will build a new gunpowder plant
A new ammunition gunpowder production plant will be built in Romania
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WASHINGTON, March 14, 2023 -
The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Romania of ninety-five (95) Heavy Gun Carriers Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs) and related equipment for an estimated cost of $104.0 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Romania has requested to buy an additional ninety-five (95) Heavy Gun Carriers Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs). This amendment will push the current case above the MDE and total case value notification thresholds and thus requires notification of the entire case.
The original FMS case, valued at $43.73 million, included thirty-four (34) Heavy Gun Carriers JLTVs. Therefore, this notification is for a total of one hundred twenty-nine (129) M1278A1 Heavy Gun Carriers Joint Light Tactical Vehicles. Also included are VRC-104 radio kits; VRC-114 radio kits; baseline integration kits; basic issue items; Defense Advanced GPS Receivers (DAGRs); DAGR integration kits; network switch ports; exportable power kits; silent watch energy storages; power expansion kits; RF7800i intercom kits; combat bumper kits; winch kits; flat tow kits; run flat kits; spare tire kits; commander supply display units; improved turret drive systems; M1114 turret ring hatches; 2-year contractor spare parts package; technical assistance; total package fielding; technical publications/manuals; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated cost is $104.0 million.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy goals and national security objectives of the United States by improving the security of a NATO Ally that is a force for political stability and economic progress in Europe.
The proposed sale will improve Romania’s capability to meet current and future threats by providing a credible force that is capable of deterring adversaries and enhance its participation in NATO operations. Romania will have no difficulty absorbing this equipment into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractors will be Oshkosh Corporation, Oshkosh, WI; and Oshkosh Defense, LLC, Oshkosh, WI. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.
Implementation of this sale will not require the assignment of any U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Romania.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded.
The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Romania of ninety-five (95) Heavy Gun Carriers Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs) and related equipment for an estimated cost of $104.0 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Romania has requested to buy an additional ninety-five (95) Heavy Gun Carriers Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs). This amendment will push the current case above the MDE and total case value notification thresholds and thus requires notification of the entire case.
The original FMS case, valued at $43.73 million, included thirty-four (34) Heavy Gun Carriers JLTVs. Therefore, this notification is for a total of one hundred twenty-nine (129) M1278A1 Heavy Gun Carriers Joint Light Tactical Vehicles. Also included are VRC-104 radio kits; VRC-114 radio kits; baseline integration kits; basic issue items; Defense Advanced GPS Receivers (DAGRs); DAGR integration kits; network switch ports; exportable power kits; silent watch energy storages; power expansion kits; RF7800i intercom kits; combat bumper kits; winch kits; flat tow kits; run flat kits; spare tire kits; commander supply display units; improved turret drive systems; M1114 turret ring hatches; 2-year contractor spare parts package; technical assistance; total package fielding; technical publications/manuals; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated cost is $104.0 million.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy goals and national security objectives of the United States by improving the security of a NATO Ally that is a force for political stability and economic progress in Europe.
The proposed sale will improve Romania’s capability to meet current and future threats by providing a credible force that is capable of deterring adversaries and enhance its participation in NATO operations. Romania will have no difficulty absorbing this equipment into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractors will be Oshkosh Corporation, Oshkosh, WI; and Oshkosh Defense, LLC, Oshkosh, WI. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.
Implementation of this sale will not require the assignment of any U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Romania.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded.
Elbit Systems Awarded Four Contracts to Supply Solutions to the Romanian Armed Forces
Elbit Systems Ltd. was awarded four contracts to supply the Romanian Ministry of National Defense with aircraft upgrades as well as electronic warfare suites, electro-optical infrared (EOIR) payloads and Brightnite™ systems for the IAR 300 helicopters.
As part of one of the contracts, the Company will integrate Elbit Systems SPECTRO XR™ payload onto IAR 330 helicopters to enhance the Romanian Navy’s operational capabilities. This contract, which follows a successful upgrade of the Romanian Navy’s IAR helicopters, will be performed over the coming year.
In a second contract, Elbit Systems will supply a comprehensive electronic warfare (EW) suite including Radar Warning Receiver (RWR), Laser Warning System (LWS), Infrared Missile Warning System (IR MWS) and Counter Measure Dispensing System (CMDS). The suites will be supplied to a domestic supplier for the installation and integration onboard six PUMA helicopters with an option for an additional six in the future. The contract is a follow on order to additional EW suites that are already installed other Romanian Armed Forces’ platforms. It will be carried out over a period of three years.
The Company will also provide, as part of a third contract, Elbit Systems HDTS type head systems, SPECTRO XR electro-optical systems and an aircraft mission package that includes smart displays, digital maps and reconnaissance systems. Elbit Systems will also supply Brightnite™ systems to IAR Brasov for the Romanian Air Force’s Puma 330 SAR helicopters. This contract will be carried out over two years.
The SPECTRO XR multi-spectral electro-optical payload is a leap forward in complex intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition and reconnaissance capabilities. Suitable for today’s operational complexity, the lightweight payload system is designed for day-and-night extended-range surveillance under various weather conditions. It also provides continuous target scanning capabilities for enhanced situational awareness.
The BrightNite system is designed to overcome visibility limitations and enable to safely and effectively fly mission helicopters in pitch dark nights and in DVE conditions including poor weather conditions, brownouts, whiteouts and sandstorms. It transmits high-resolution video to the Helmet-Mounted Display (HMD), enabling pilots to fly in a head-up, eyes-out position. The system can present information to multiple pilots simultaneously on an intuitive multi-functional display.
Under a fourth contract, Elbit Systems will supply advanced avionic suites, live training embedded virtual avionics system, advanced monitors, overhead display, navigation system and weapons activiation systems to Avioane Craiova that is upgrading the Romanian Air Force’s (RoAF) IAR99 advanced fighter trainer aircraft.
The IAR99 SOIM is an advanced trainer and the upgrade will support the an effective transition of RoAF pilots to fighter aircraft, including the Romanian Air Force’s F-16s. The contract will be carried out over a period of four years. This upgrade program follows a previous contract for the Romanian Air Force’s trainer aircraft in collaboration with Avioane Craiova and was awarded approximately 25 years after Elbit Systems first contract to upgraded the IAR99 aircraft.
Ran Kril, Executive Vice President International Marketing & Business Development of Elbit Systems: “These contracts extend Elbit Systems’ track record delivering successful projects to the Romanian Armed Forces, including follow-on contracts awarded after Elbit Systems first was contracted to upgrade helicopters and aircraft.”
Elbit Systems Ltd. was awarded four contracts to supply the Romanian Ministry of National Defense with aircraft upgrades as well as electronic warfare suites, electro-optical infrared (EOIR) payloads and Brightnite™ systems for the IAR 300 helicopters.
As part of one of the contracts, the Company will integrate Elbit Systems SPECTRO XR™ payload onto IAR 330 helicopters to enhance the Romanian Navy’s operational capabilities. This contract, which follows a successful upgrade of the Romanian Navy’s IAR helicopters, will be performed over the coming year.
In a second contract, Elbit Systems will supply a comprehensive electronic warfare (EW) suite including Radar Warning Receiver (RWR), Laser Warning System (LWS), Infrared Missile Warning System (IR MWS) and Counter Measure Dispensing System (CMDS). The suites will be supplied to a domestic supplier for the installation and integration onboard six PUMA helicopters with an option for an additional six in the future. The contract is a follow on order to additional EW suites that are already installed other Romanian Armed Forces’ platforms. It will be carried out over a period of three years.
The Company will also provide, as part of a third contract, Elbit Systems HDTS type head systems, SPECTRO XR electro-optical systems and an aircraft mission package that includes smart displays, digital maps and reconnaissance systems. Elbit Systems will also supply Brightnite™ systems to IAR Brasov for the Romanian Air Force’s Puma 330 SAR helicopters. This contract will be carried out over two years.
The SPECTRO XR multi-spectral electro-optical payload is a leap forward in complex intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition and reconnaissance capabilities. Suitable for today’s operational complexity, the lightweight payload system is designed for day-and-night extended-range surveillance under various weather conditions. It also provides continuous target scanning capabilities for enhanced situational awareness.
The BrightNite system is designed to overcome visibility limitations and enable to safely and effectively fly mission helicopters in pitch dark nights and in DVE conditions including poor weather conditions, brownouts, whiteouts and sandstorms. It transmits high-resolution video to the Helmet-Mounted Display (HMD), enabling pilots to fly in a head-up, eyes-out position. The system can present information to multiple pilots simultaneously on an intuitive multi-functional display.
Under a fourth contract, Elbit Systems will supply advanced avionic suites, live training embedded virtual avionics system, advanced monitors, overhead display, navigation system and weapons activiation systems to Avioane Craiova that is upgrading the Romanian Air Force’s (RoAF) IAR99 advanced fighter trainer aircraft.
The IAR99 SOIM is an advanced trainer and the upgrade will support the an effective transition of RoAF pilots to fighter aircraft, including the Romanian Air Force’s F-16s. The contract will be carried out over a period of four years. This upgrade program follows a previous contract for the Romanian Air Force’s trainer aircraft in collaboration with Avioane Craiova and was awarded approximately 25 years after Elbit Systems first contract to upgraded the IAR99 aircraft.
Ran Kril, Executive Vice President International Marketing & Business Development of Elbit Systems: “These contracts extend Elbit Systems’ track record delivering successful projects to the Romanian Armed Forces, including follow-on contracts awarded after Elbit Systems first was contracted to upgrade helicopters and aircraft.”
Benne van hogy 2023 ban indul minden beszerzés és általában 30 ig be is szerzik! A legérdekesebb az IFV, vajon honnan a szám és ki ellen van a nagyságrend meghatározva!Fontosak a dátumok, és azok hiánya!
A rakéták esetén nincs dátum.Benne van hogy 2023 ban indul minden beszerzés és általában 30 ig be is szerzik! A legérdekesebb az IFV, vajon honnan a szám és ki ellen van a nagyságrend meghatározva!
De ami meg is van adva ott a 2030-as dátum egy igen bő ráhagyást ad.
Az a probléma, hogy ha mindent lassú ütemű szállítással kérnek, akkor is nagyon sok pénzt kell előteremteniük. És ez a program még messze nem teljes!
Az egész beszerzést 2040ig szeretnék lefolytatni.
A SHORAD - VSHORAD - ~4200 mEur: a rendszer két etapban fog beszerzésre kerülni, ebből az első etapra 2030-ig 2100 mEur -ot terveznek költeni, amiben 12 db rendszer lenne, 6 a szárazföldieknek 6 pedig a légierőnek. A második etapra 2200 mEur-ot terveznek költeni.
298 IFV - 2995 mEur : első 9 évben 246 kerül beszerzésre, a többi 2031 után kell, hogy hadrendbe álljon.
5 db önjáró löveg - 1923 mUSD ( dollár! avagy ez biztos nem európai lesz ) : első 6 évben 3db, majd a többi 2028 után.
186 db AIM-120 - 372 mUSD : nincs dátum
299 db AIM-9X - 239 mUSD : nincs dátum
A fordító rosszul fordítja az önjáró löveget. Vagy maguk a románok szarul írták. Az 5 löveg, az 5 osztályt kell, hogy jelentsen.
Legalább is igencsak átb@sznák őket 5 lövegért 2Mrd USD-vel.
Valószínűleg, ha a devizáknak lehet hinni, akkor önjáróból ATMOS-t választanának ők is.
Hoppá azt elírtam, valóban. Habár a románok úgy hivatkoznak rá, mint "5 db rendszer", de valószínűleg tényleg osztály lesz azA fordító rosszul fordítja az önjáró löveget. Vagy maguk a románok szarul írták. Az 5 löveg, az 5 osztályt kell, hogy jelentsen.
Legalább is igencsak átb@sznák őket 5 lövegért 2Mrd USD-vel.
Valószínűleg, ha a devizáknak lehet hinni, akkor önjáróból ATMOS-t választanának ők is.
3 osztaly lancost irnak 6 even belulA fordító rosszul fordítja az önjáró löveget. Vagy maguk a románok szarul írták. Az 5 löveg, az 5 osztályt kell, hogy jelentsen.
Legalább is igencsak átb@sznák őket 5 lövegért 2Mrd USD-vel.
Valószínűleg, ha a devizáknak lehet hinni, akkor önjáróból ATMOS-t választanának ők is.
2 osztaly 2028 utan, itt konkretan nem jelenik meg hogy lancos
The Romanian text is in military language but it will be 5 battalions of self propelled howitzers. It's split in two, 3 battalions on tracks and 2 other of unknown type from 2028 onward. So no ATMOS automatically. It's 90 howitzers in total.The translator translates the self-propelled gun incorrectly. Or the Romanians themselves wrote it as crap. The 5 guns should represent the 5 classes.
At the very least, they would pretty much sell them for 5 guns for 2B USD.
Probably, if the currencies are to be believed, they too would automatically choose ATMOS.
as for IFVs so far the favorites are ASCOD or REDBACK.