JAS-39 Gripen (Saab,Svédország)
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Ha nem vagy kibékülve az alapértelmezettnek beállított sötét sablonnal, akkor a korábbi ígéretnek megfelelően bármikor átválthatsz a korábbi világos színekkel dolgozó kinézetre.
Ehhez görgess a lap aljára és a baloldalon keresd a HTKA Dark feliratú gombot. Kattints rá, majd a megnyíló ablakban válaszd a HTKA Light lehetőséget. Választásod a böngésződ elmenti cookie-ba, így amikor legközelebb érkezel ezt a műveletsort nem kell megismételned. -
Az elmúlt időszak tapasztalatai alapján házirendet kapott a topic.
Ezen témában - a fórumon rendhagyó módon - az oldal üzemeltetője saját álláspontja, meggyőződése alapján nem enged bizonyos véleményeket, mivel meglátása szerint az káros a járványhelyzet enyhítését célzó törekvésekre.
Kérünk, hogy a vírus veszélyességét kétségbe vonó, oltásellenes véleményed más platformon fejtsd ki. Nálunk ennek nincs helye. Az ilyen hozzászólásokért 1 alkalommal figyelmeztetés jár, majd folytatása esetén a témáról letiltás. Arra is kérünk, hogy a fórum más témáiba ne vigyétek át, mert azért viszont már a fórum egészéről letiltás járhat hosszabb-rövidebb időre.
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Az elmúlt időszak tapasztalatai alapján frissített házirendet kapott a topic.
--- VÁLTOZÁS A MODERÁLÁSBAN ---
A források, hírek preferáltak. Azoknak, akik veszik a fáradságot és összegyűjtik ezeket a főként harcokkal, a háború jelenlegi állásával és haditechnika szempontjából érdekes híreket, (mindegy milyen oldali) forrásokkal alátámasztják és bonuszként legalább a címet egy google fordítóba berakják, azoknak ismételten köszönjük az áldozatos munkáját és további kitartást kívánunk nekik!
Ami nem a topik témájába vág vagy akár csak erősebb hangnemben is kerül megfogalmazásra, az valamilyen formában szankcionálva lesz
Minden olyan hozzászólásért ami nem hír, vagy szorosan a konfliktushoz kapcsolódó vélemény / elemzés azért instant 3 nap topic letiltás jár. Aki pedig ezzel trükközne és folytatná másik topicban annak 2 hónap fórum ban a jussa.
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Az elmúlt évek tapasztalatai alapján, és a kialakult helyzet kapcsán szeretnénk elkerülni a (többek között az ukrán topikban is tapasztalható) információs zajt, amit részben a hazai sajtóorgánumok hozzá nem értő cikkei által okozott visszhang gerjeszt. Mivel kizárható, hogy a hazai sajtó, vagy mainstream szakértők többletinformációval rendelkezzenek a fórumhoz képest a Wagner katonai magánvállalat oroszországi műveletével kapcsolatban, így kiegészítő szabály lép érvénybe a topik színvonalának megőrzése, javítása érdekében:
- a magyar orgánumok, közösségi média oldalak, egyéb felületek hírei és elemzései (beleértve az utóbbi időkben elhíresült szakértőket is) nem támogatottak, kérjük kerülésüket.
- a külföldi fősodratú elemzések, hírek közül az új információt nem hordozók szintén kerülendők
Ezen tartalmak az oldal tulajdonosának és moderátorainak belátása szerint egyéb szabálysértés hiányában is törölhetők, a törlés minden esetben (az erőforrások megőrzése érdekében) külön indoklás nélkül történik.
Preferáltak az elsődleges és másodlagos források, pl. a résztvevő felekhez köthető Telegram chat-ek, illetve az ezeket közvetlenül szemléző szakmai felületek, felhasználók.
A 6002 az elso sved production test peldany, ezt vittek a finnekhez is:, szerintem nem kerult fel ra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ3DoAPw1_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47-SISXzkAA
Saab Delivers 1st Series-Produced JAS 39 Gripen-E Fighter Jet For Operational Testing
Swedish aerospace and defense company Saab has delivered the first series production standard JAS 39 Gripen E combat aircraft to the Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) for rigorous operational testing.
www.eurasiantimes.com
Tévedtem, mégis az új, nagyobb szárny lett a végleges design, alapvetően heavier loadout érdekében:
Here’s Why Saab’s Gripen E Fighter’s Wing Suddenly Grew In Size
The Gripen E is now flying with a more trapezoid-shaped wing of increased area and it’s set to become standard on production aircraft.
www.thedrive.com
A lényeg:
"Saab’s Johan Segertoft, head of the Gripen business unit, explained exactly why the changes had been made:
“At an early stage in the development process, an opportunity was identified to improve Gripen’s heavy load-carrying capabilities, as a clear benefit to future operations. A decision was made to implement this enhancement as quickly as possible. We have made updates to the software and some modifications affecting canard and elevon surfaces. These changes bring immediate benefits, prove our ability to reliably deliver growth, and consistently improve aircraft’s potential for the future.”
While Segertoft mentions changes to the canard foreplanes, these are not immediately obvious based on the photos released so far.
Another view of Gripen E serial 6002 with the increased-area wing.
Segertoft continued: “The cornerstone of the Gripen design concept is its ability to adapt rapidly and effectively to changing needs. We continue to enhance the aircraft in ways that can be seen and not seen, as we incorporate new technology and new requirements. Fighter aircraft must be able to evolve quickly, effectively, and affordably to meet the needs of their users. As an example, Gripen E’s performance envelope has now been enhanced and further expanded through an increased ability to integrate heavier and more complex loads to meet future mission requirements.”
While the revised wing may have only recently been identified, the idea has been around for a while, Segertoft confirmed.
“The feasibility of this enhancement was identified in the early stages of Gripen E development using Saab’s model-based design techniques. Further exploration in the early trials program underlined the benefits for future operations and in 2021 it was decided to make these improvements to the baseline design.”
The first aircraft with the revised wing configuration took to the air in the second half of 2021. As of today, there are 16 Gripen E fighters flying in Sweden and Brazil — the Latin American nation is the first and so far only export customer for the jet and has also inaugurated a domestic production line, which will build 15 of the 36 aircraft currently contracted to the Brazilian Air Force.
According to Segertoft “The new design features have already been added to some of these aircraft and successful flight trials have been completed.” Segertoft also confirmed that the modification “will become the standard configuration going forward in all production aircraft for Sweden, Brazil, and other customers.”
As to the benefits that the new wing will bring, Saab has emphasized that it will boost the Gripen E’s ability to carry heavier loads, in the form of external weapons, fuel tanks, and other stores. For a smaller fighter like the Gripen, this is clearly a considerable bonus, although it’s not clear at this point how it will change the kinds of loads that it can carry. It’s worth noting, too, that the Gripen E can already carry some fairly heavy loads, including up to four of the big Saab RBS 15 anti-ship missiles, although this configuration has not so far been seen in the air. Other heavy loads include up to nine air-to-air missiles, or 16 Small Diameter Bombs, albeit at the expense of external fuel.
A Gripen E carrying four RBS 15 anti-ship missiles.
A Gripen E loaded with seven MBDA Meteor and two IRIS-T air-to-air missiles.
Conceivably, the heavier load-carrying capabilities could see the Gripen E be adapted to use different kinds of pylons or stores, allowing a greater number of weapons to be fitted simultaneously. With a total of 10 hardpoints already available, there would certainly seem to be some options in this regard.
Expanding the combat potential of the Gripen E is also in keeping with recent Swedish defense policy, which has seen a renewed emphasis on its fighter fleet as the country grapples with a further deterioration in regional security policy including increasing Russian belligerence. As part of this, as well as joining NATO, Sweden has decided to retain its older Gripen C/D fleet for longer, as well as procuring 60 new-generation Gripen Es. The Gripen E is a substantially different aircraft — as you can read about here.
At the same time, the effect that the new wing has on the maneuverability of the Gripen E should not be disregarded. A wing with a larger area certainly translates into improved flight performance at low speeds — especially useful for within-visual-range combat. Overall, larger elevons should mean that the Gripen E has improved pitch control and roll control, fundamental to optimizing agility. The change also will likely have benefits for general handling at the lower end of the speed spectrum, including takeoffs and landings, especially with heavier loads.
Again, it should be noted that low-speed handling and maneuverability is not the key driver behind the Gripen E’s revised planform, but it would certainly appear to be more than a useful byproduct."
Kifejezetten jól áll neki ez a szárny.Tévedtem, mégis az új, nagyobb szárny lett a végleges design, alapvetően heavier loadout érdekében:
Here’s Why Saab’s Gripen E Fighter’s Wing Suddenly Grew In Size
The Gripen E is now flying with a more trapezoid-shaped wing of increased area and it’s set to become standard on production aircraft.
A lényeg:
"Saab’s Johan Segertoft, head of the Gripen business unit, explained exactly why the changes had been made:
“At an early stage in the development process, an opportunity was identified to improve Gripen’s heavy load-carrying capabilities, as a clear benefit to future operations. A decision was made to implement this enhancement as quickly as possible. We have made updates to the software and some modifications affecting canard and elevon surfaces. These changes bring immediate benefits, prove our ability to reliably deliver growth, and consistently improve aircraft’s potential for the future.”
While Segertoft mentions changes to the canard foreplanes, these are not immediately obvious based on the photos released so far.
Another view of Gripen E serial 6002 with the increased-area wing.
Segertoft continued: “The cornerstone of the Gripen design concept is its ability to adapt rapidly and effectively to changing needs. We continue to enhance the aircraft in ways that can be seen and not seen, as we incorporate new technology and new requirements. Fighter aircraft must be able to evolve quickly, effectively, and affordably to meet the needs of their users. As an example, Gripen E’s performance envelope has now been enhanced and further expanded through an increased ability to integrate heavier and more complex loads to meet future mission requirements.”
While the revised wing may have only recently been identified, the idea has been around for a while, Segertoft confirmed.
“The feasibility of this enhancement was identified in the early stages of Gripen E development using Saab’s model-based design techniques. Further exploration in the early trials program underlined the benefits for future operations and in 2021 it was decided to make these improvements to the baseline design.”
The first aircraft with the revised wing configuration took to the air in the second half of 2021. As of today, there are 16 Gripen E fighters flying in Sweden and Brazil — the Latin American nation is the first and so far only export customer for the jet and has also inaugurated a domestic production line, which will build 15 of the 36 aircraft currently contracted to the Brazilian Air Force.
According to Segertoft “The new design features have already been added to some of these aircraft and successful flight trials have been completed.” Segertoft also confirmed that the modification “will become the standard configuration going forward in all production aircraft for Sweden, Brazil, and other customers.”
As to the benefits that the new wing will bring, Saab has emphasized that it will boost the Gripen E’s ability to carry heavier loads, in the form of external weapons, fuel tanks, and other stores. For a smaller fighter like the Gripen, this is clearly a considerable bonus, although it’s not clear at this point how it will change the kinds of loads that it can carry. It’s worth noting, too, that the Gripen E can already carry some fairly heavy loads, including up to four of the big Saab RBS 15 anti-ship missiles, although this configuration has not so far been seen in the air. Other heavy loads include up to nine air-to-air missiles, or 16 Small Diameter Bombs, albeit at the expense of external fuel.
A Gripen E carrying four RBS 15 anti-ship missiles.
A Gripen E loaded with seven MBDA Meteor and two IRIS-T air-to-air missiles.
Conceivably, the heavier load-carrying capabilities could see the Gripen E be adapted to use different kinds of pylons or stores, allowing a greater number of weapons to be fitted simultaneously. With a total of 10 hardpoints already available, there would certainly seem to be some options in this regard.
Expanding the combat potential of the Gripen E is also in keeping with recent Swedish defense policy, which has seen a renewed emphasis on its fighter fleet as the country grapples with a further deterioration in regional security policy including increasing Russian belligerence. As part of this, as well as joining NATO, Sweden has decided to retain its older Gripen C/D fleet for longer, as well as procuring 60 new-generation Gripen Es. The Gripen E is a substantially different aircraft — as you can read about here.
At the same time, the effect that the new wing has on the maneuverability of the Gripen E should not be disregarded. A wing with a larger area certainly translates into improved flight performance at low speeds — especially useful for within-visual-range combat. Overall, larger elevons should mean that the Gripen E has improved pitch control and roll control, fundamental to optimizing agility. The change also will likely have benefits for general handling at the lower end of the speed spectrum, including takeoffs and landings, especially with heavier loads.
Again, it should be noted that low-speed handling and maneuverability is not the key driver behind the Gripen E’s revised planform, but it would certainly appear to be more than a useful byproduct."
Már csak egy erősebb hajtóművel kéne megtámasztani a nagyobb harci terhet és a prognosztizált nagyobb manőverezőképeséget és kész a gép.
Elvileg a Volvos verzio upgradejen dolgozik a GKN, majd elvalik, lesz-e hasonlo upgrade az E engine kapcsan - gyanitom, ez elsosorban a jovobeni eladasoktol fugg.
Előző oldalon volt róla szó...Elvileg a Volvos verzio upgradejen dolgozik a GKN, majd elvalik, lesz-e hasonlo upgrade az E engine kapcsan - gyanitom, ez elsosorban a jovobeni eladasoktol fugg.
Addig reszelgetik, amíg F-16 lesz belőle.
Interjú a Saab egyik berepült pilótájával,
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MS20 Block 2-es modernizációs csomagon túl
Nesze semmi,fogd meg jol-ennek a szövegnek az információtartalma NULLA.Interjú a Saab egyik berepült pilótájával,
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MS20 Block 2-es modernizációs csomagon túl
Logikusan nem mondhat sokat.
Annyi talán az új info, hogy a Meteoron túl is folyik a fejlesztés új AA tamadofegyverekkel, valamint egyértelműen ráfókuszáltak a networked warfare új, még fejlettebb platformjára. Már a mai AI modelleket is pár honap alatt be lehet tanítani celfelismeresre, szortirozasra, threat analízisre egy laptoprol (cloudot használva), bele sem merek gondolni, milyen szinten járhatnak a katonai fejlesztéseknél a platformok...
Brazilian serial production F-39 Gripen received gravity-feed refuelling ports. Aircraft can be now refuelled without access to normal base infrastructure - even from fuel drums. Seen as circles / caps over the internal tanks. Previously this gravity-feed system was unique to the South African version of Gripen C/D - enabling fighters to operate from small airfields.
