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M1 Abrams

Diskurzus a(z) 'Harckocsik' témában - Tcat által indítva @ 2013. január 6..

  1. Ocses

    Ocses Well-Known Member

  2. kamm

    kamm Well-Known Member

    Errol az jut eszembe, hogy a friendly fire (FF) sztorikat brutalisan elnyomja a US Army ill a Pentagon, a hirekben szinte alig hallani roluk - pedig peldaul anno Vietnamban a valos szamok az osszes veszteseg 15-20% (!!!) korul mutattak a FF aldozatok aranyat.
    Ez ma gondolom azert joval alacsonyabb, de nem elenyeszo, mint azt az amerikai hadvezetes ill a media megprobalja elhitetni.
     
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  3. pöcshuszár

    pöcshuszár Well-Known Member

    Benne van a cikkben:
     
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  4. Wilson

    Wilson Well-Known Member

    Szerencsétlen jól bekapta :(

    Ha minden igaz egy ilyen lőszer találta telibe az Abramset

    LARGE CALIBER AMMUNITION
    120mm M1002 TPMP-T
    Target Practice Multipurpose-Tracer
    The 120mm M1002 Target Practice Multipurpose Tracer (TPMP-T) training round creates realistic training to the tactical M830A1 High Explosive Anti-Tank Multipurpose Tracer (HEAT-MP-T) round. The M1002 features a dummy air/ground switch, and is matched ballistically to the time-of-flight parameters of the M830A1, thus creating realistic training. The tailcone stabilizer provides a safety feature, which limits the overall flight range to under 8km, reducing the requirement for extreme-range safety fans.


    A Cost Effective Training Device for Tank Gunnery

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    120mm M1002 Technical Specifications
    Cartridge Data
    Length
    984 mm (38.7”)
    Weight 22.7 kg (50.0 lb)
    Propellant type M14 Granular
    Propellant weight 7.5 kg (16.5 lbs)
    Chamber pressure 5545 bar (80,419 psi)
    Projectile Data
    Type
    TPMP-T
    Length 533 mm (21”)
    Weight 8.165 kg (18.0 lbs)
    Muzzle Velocity 1375 m/s (4511 ft/sec)
    Range 3000 m
     
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  5. rudi

    rudi Well-Known Member

    Sorry, a M1002 nem az APFSDS hanem a M830A1 HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank Multipurpose Tracer) lőszer gyakoeló változata és azt jelenti hogy a ballisztikája azonos az éles lőszer ballisztikájával de a hatótávolsága 8 km-re van redukálva.
    https://www.gd-ots.com/munitions/large-caliber-ammunition/120mm-m1002/
    [​IMG]
     
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  6. arcas

    arcas Well-Known Member

    Egészen biztosan volt már korábban, mert régi videó, de a hajtómű és az erőátviteli rendszer hangahatásai végett én élvezettel néztem/hallgattam ezt a kis dagonyából való kimászást :)
     
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  7. pöcshuszár

    pöcshuszár Well-Known Member

    Az utolsó USMC M1-est is kivonták a hadrendből. És az utolsó tankzászlóalj is év végére teljesen felszámolasra kerül.
    A kivont tankok vagy az Armyhoz kerülnek, vagy átadják őket szövetségeseknek.
    Mondjuk szerintem egy alapos depó felújítás, modernizáció rájuk fog férni! ;)
     
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  8. Nemerson

    Nemerson Well-Known Member

  9. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

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  10. dudi

    dudi Well-Known Member

  11. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    WASHINGTON, July 28, 2020 -

    The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Kuwait of various M1A2K training ammunition and related equipment for an estimated cost of $59.6 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

    The Government of Kuwait has requested to buy ten thousand two hundred sixty (10,260) 120MM M865 Target Practice Cone Stabilized Discarding Sabot Tracer (TPCSDS-T) Cartridges and nine thousand eight hundred ten (9,810) 120MM M1002 Target Practice Multipurpose Tracer (TPMP-T) Cartridges. Also included are two hundred fifteen thousand (215,000) 50 Caliber, 4 Ball, 1 Tracer Cartridges; six hundred thousand (600,000) 7.62MM 4 Ball, M80/1 Tracer, M62 Linked Cartridges; containers; munitions; support and test equipment; integration and test support; spare and repair parts; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated total cost is $59.6 million.

    The proposed sale will improve Kuwait’s capability to meet current and future threats by enabling continued employment of the M1A2 Abrams main battle tank and supporting modernization of the country’s tank fleet. The training ammunition will be used to qualify Kuwait’s M1A2 tanks, which will enhance Kuwait’s ability to protect border regions and key land-based infrastructure. Kuwait will have no difficulty absorbing these training rounds into its armed forces.


    The principal contractor will be BAE Systems, York, PA. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.


    Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Kuwait.
     
  12. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

  13. kamm

    kamm Well-Known Member

  14. Allesmor Obranna

    Allesmor Obranna Well-Known Member

  15. Pogány

    Pogány Well-Known Member

    Jól néz ki, csak használhatatlan konstrukció lett a vezető toronyba ültetése miatt. Kapott egy mindig előrenéző stabilizált vezetőállást, de állandóan rosszul lett. A megoldásaiból kapott az Abrams is, meg a Leo 2 is, de ez zsákutca lett.
     
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  16. Python

    Python Well-Known Member

    Meg egy csomó előremutató, de a kor technológiai színvonalán túl bonyolultan megvalósítható, ezért problémaforrások sorát rejtő elképzelést építettek bele.
     
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