-a gyakorlaton résztvevő járművek ~harmadánál, és kb 30 katonánál fordult elő a fennforgás
-egyik katona sem igényelt kórházi ellátást
-a gyakorlatot 30 perc után felfüggesztették
Over one third of Ajax vehicles caused crew health problems
More than a third of the Ajax vehicles in a recent British Army training exercise were linked to new noise and vibration injuries, the UK Defence Journal understands.ukdefencejournal.org.uk
Konkrétan a tesztpályan hullottak ki belőle az alkatrészek
Úgy látom ismét bebizonyosodik, hogy miért ment csődbe a britt járműipar
De ez spanyolban van gyártvaÚgy látom ismét bebizonyosodik, hogy miért ment csődbe a britt járműipar
De ez spanyolban van gyártva
Nem mintha náluk nem szűnt volna meg az önálló autó gyártás hasonló okokból
De gondolom a tervezése Britt.
Az ascodnak mennyi köze van a britekhez?Nem mintha náluk nem szűnt volna meg az önálló autó gyártás hasonló okokból
De gondolom a tervezése Britt.
Nem tudom. Emlékeim szerint az osztrákokkal közös móka volt.
Viszont az Ajay az Britt program. Kétlem, hogy az eredeti Ascod/Ulan páros ilyen problémákkal küzdene, mint ez a szargombóc
Amennyi pénzt elbasztak a fejlesztésre, abból simán vehettek volna pár CV90-est.
Ez hogy a faszba.Konkrétan a tesztpályan hullottak ki belőle az alkatrészek
Dolgoztam spanyolokkal.
Katasztrófák.
De ennyire.
Spanyolok a teknőt gyártják, majd azokat áthajózzák Angliába és ott szerelik készre a GDLS UK üzemeiben, úgyhogy a sok szabadon lifegő szar helyi hozzáadott érték.
De voltak horror sztorik spanyolokról is a gyártás kezdetén: a kelleténél 40cm-el hosszabbra gyártott komplett teknőkről, vagy egyik oldal rövidebbre sikerült, mint a másik és hasonló nyalánkságokról és annak tükrében, hogy a Santa Barbara Sistemas a saját spanyol rendelésű Piranha 5-öt se tudja megfelelő minőségben gyártani, simán elképzelhető, hogy ezek nem csak rosszindulatú pletykák voltak.
De voltak horror sztorik spanyolokról is a gyártás kezdetén: a kelleténél 40cm-el hosszabbra gyártott komplett teknőkről, vagy egyik oldal rövidebbre sikerült, mint a másik és hasonló nyalánkságokról és annak tükrében, hogy a Santa Barbara Sistemas a saját spanyol rendelésű Piranha 5-öt se tudja megfelelő minőségben gyártani, simán elképzelhető, hogy ezek nem csak rosszindulatú pletykák voltak.
Kóboralkatrészek. Kijön, aminek ki kell jönnie, nélkülük is működik, nem?!Konkrétan a tesztpályan hullottak ki belőle az alkatrészek
Apád metélt töke az puha
A warriorok se nem csendes se nem rezgésmentes gépek azokkal mégsincs baj aztán öregek mint az országút
Régen még a rezgés is jobb voltApád metélt töke az puha
A warriorok se nem csendes se nem rezgésmentes gépek azokkal mégsincs baj aztán öregek mint az országút
Azért rejtélyes ez az egész történet. Ha ilyen hibák vannak, akkor azoknak már ki kellett volna jönnie,
nem csak így egyszercsak el kezd lenni.
Folyamatosan jönnek ki a hibák csak mindig jön a duma, hogy majd kijavítják...Régen még a rezgés is jobb volt
Azért rejtélyes ez az egész történet. Ha ilyen hibák vannak, akkor azoknak már ki kellett volna jönnie,
nem csak így egyszercsak el kezd lenni.
Ja, látjuk, hogy mennyire sikerül
Én azért csak úgy gondolnám, hogy egy ilyen -valsz- strukturális hiba valami eredendő ok miatt lesz,Folyamatosan jönnek ki a hibák csak mindig jön a duma, hogy majd kijavítják...
annak meg előbb is ki kellett volna derülnie.
Nem most mentek velük először.
Majd a végén kiderül, hogy szabotázs
Milyen egyszerre ?Régen még a rezgés is jobb volt
Azért rejtélyes ez az egész történet. Ha ilyen hibák vannak, akkor azoknak már ki kellett volna jönnie,
nem csak így egyszercsak el kezd lenni.
Ez visszatérő probléma ami miatt 2x màr majdnem kukáztàk az egész programot...
Tovább is van, mondjam még?
- The vehicle batteries cannot sustain the vehicle for general use and the APU that is fitted to the AJAX variant is so prone to failing that units are stopping troops from using them. The COA for this is to carry a manpack on exercise to avoid the need of running the vehicle up, but this also effects training, with students not being able to receive full lessons.- There are no cam nets or thermal sheets designed for AJAX, we use AS90 cam nets that we cut to fit in the bin because its too big. We cant hide the thermal signature on the vehicle or hide it effectively enough to survive any kind of enemy searching for us.- Fuel tanks are failing, which means crews need to use the fuel pump in the CES to move fuel around and between vehicles. Whilst we talk about fuel tanks, its fair to mention that we mock the Russians for having fuel tanks on the rear doors, and yet we have made the same mistake.- The technical document is over 20k pages which is essentially needs a course to navigate. The CES schedule is multiple pages of army jargon and GD numbers that troops are struggling to decipher and I would argue that most people cannot accurately account for their kit because of this.- The L-specs used by instructors are a copy and paste mess from other vehicles, which leads to dangerous confusion in lessons, such as instructing a user to carry out GPMG drills on a HMG, and despite it being flagged, it remains in the L-spec.- When a stoppage occurs in the 40mm cannon, a 30 minute wait period is enforced on the vehicle by the system, this also stops the chain gun from being used because it lacks any mechanical means of firing. The obvious solution to this would have been to fit a L37 so that during a stoppage the COAX can still be fired and any faults/damages can be rectified at crew level and would give crews a dismountable GPMG for sentries.- Fuel… the vehicle is unsuitable by even a challenger 2 G4 chain. A squadron used 15000L of fuel in 35 hours if movement across 27 vehicles. The vehicles use approx 16L of fuel an hour, and with a tank of 795L, we will get 50hours of movement before empty. This is a vehicle designed to be used as a DEEP recce vehicle, and it cant even be sustained with POL by its G4 chain.- Recently ATDU was given the task of proving an AJAX can go from factory to the ranges and fire. To start with they couldn’t grease the tracks because the grease gun wouldn’t work, so they used a warrior grease gun (GD has now reinvented this and created their own worser version). next came the comms check, and the crews found that the internal wiring was incorrect and kit was missing or broken which had to be salvaged from other vehicles. The next hurdle was boresighting the vehicle which required someone from GD to come and do for the crews. In the end out of 4 vehicles, only 1 fired 10 rounds.- The vibration issues are worse than people realise. I challenge anyone to get in the back of a ARES and survive 30 minutes cross country. The same for AJAX when crews are hatch down. Crews have reported watching cables unscrewing while the vehicle is running. GD and the MOD’s solution is rubber tracks… AJAX is designed to be crewed by 3 people, and they expect them to be capable of replacing a rubber track without bringing other troops in to help, so that they don’t highlight their position.- GD has realised they are in the red with AJAX and will recoup their losses via spares on the vehicle. An ares dented a back bin, which required a replacement that cost £90k +, because they decided they would only replace the entire unit, including lights and cameras, despite them being perfectly fine.- Lets talk about train as you fight. Unlike during training, the CES cannot be carried by the vehicle when fitted with its war fighting armour, which means it will need to be added to the growing G4 packet following on behind troops, alongside the crates of locktite that EVERY nut on the vehicle requires before fitting.These issues have been raised at every level, and they have been ignored. Regimental CoC have been told, brigade commanders have been informed, we even informed the GCGS team when they visited. They don’t care, and its clear that people are prioritising potential careers with GD than the MOD and the effect their negligence has on the troops they are dumping AJAX onto. I watched a vehicle nearly burn down when the crew crawled it back into camp because GD failed with mount the engine correctly and yet the crew was still blamed for the damage.The reality is, CVRT and warrior should have been upgraded to meet modern threats and come in line with equivalent vehicles. Someone decided that we need to move away from the “CVRT mentality” and that the CT40 and new turret cannot be fitted to warrior in a cost effective manner.
- The vehicle batteries cannot sustain the vehicle for general use and the APU that is fitted to the AJAX variant is so prone to failing that units are stopping troops from using them. The COA for this is to carry a manpack on exercise to avoid the need of running the vehicle up, but this also effects training, with students not being able to receive full lessons.- There are no cam nets or thermal sheets designed for AJAX, we use AS90 cam nets that we cut to fit in the bin because its too big. We cant hide the thermal signature on the vehicle or hide it effectively enough to survive any kind of enemy searching for us.- Fuel tanks are failing, which means crews need to use the fuel pump in the CES to move fuel around and between vehicles. Whilst we talk about fuel tanks, its fair to mention that we mock the Russians for having fuel tanks on the rear doors, and yet we have made the same mistake.- The technical document is over 20k pages which is essentially needs a course to navigate. The CES schedule is multiple pages of army jargon and GD numbers that troops are struggling to decipher and I would argue that most people cannot accurately account for their kit because of this.- The L-specs used by instructors are a copy and paste mess from other vehicles, which leads to dangerous confusion in lessons, such as instructing a user to carry out GPMG drills on a HMG, and despite it being flagged, it remains in the L-spec.- When a stoppage occurs in the 40mm cannon, a 30 minute wait period is enforced on the vehicle by the system, this also stops the chain gun from being used because it lacks any mechanical means of firing. The obvious solution to this would have been to fit a L37 so that during a stoppage the COAX can still be fired and any faults/damages can be rectified at crew level and would give crews a dismountable GPMG for sentries.- Fuel… the vehicle is unsuitable by even a challenger 2 G4 chain. A squadron used 15000L of fuel in 35 hours if movement across 27 vehicles. The vehicles use approx 16L of fuel an hour, and with a tank of 795L, we will get 50hours of movement before empty. This is a vehicle designed to be used as a DEEP recce vehicle, and it cant even be sustained with POL by its G4 chain.- Recently ATDU was given the task of proving an AJAX can go from factory to the ranges and fire. To start with they couldn’t grease the tracks because the grease gun wouldn’t work, so they used a warrior grease gun (GD has now reinvented this and created their own worser version). next came the comms check, and the crews found that the internal wiring was incorrect and kit was missing or broken which had to be salvaged from other vehicles. The next hurdle was boresighting the vehicle which required someone from GD to come and do for the crews. In the end out of 4 vehicles, only 1 fired 10 rounds.- The vibration issues are worse than people realise. I challenge anyone to get in the back of a ARES and survive 30 minutes cross country. The same for AJAX when crews are hatch down. Crews have reported watching cables unscrewing while the vehicle is running. GD and the MOD’s solution is rubber tracks… AJAX is designed to be crewed by 3 people, and they expect them to be capable of replacing a rubber track without bringing other troops in to help, so that they don’t highlight their position.- GD has realised they are in the red with AJAX and will recoup their losses via spares on the vehicle. An ares dented a back bin, which required a replacement that cost £90k +, because they decided they would only replace the entire unit, including lights and cameras, despite them being perfectly fine.- Lets talk about train as you fight. Unlike during training, the CES cannot be carried by the vehicle when fitted with its war fighting armour, which means it will need to be added to the growing G4 packet following on behind troops, alongside the crates of locktite that EVERY nut on the vehicle requires before fitting.These issues have been raised at every level, and they have been ignored. Regimental CoC have been told, brigade commanders have been informed, we even informed the GCGS team when they visited. They don’t care, and its clear that people are prioritising potential careers with GD than the MOD and the effect their negligence has on the troops they are dumping AJAX onto. I watched a vehicle nearly burn down when the crew crawled it back into camp because GD failed with mount the engine correctly and yet the crew was still blamed for the damage.The reality is, CVRT and warrior should have been upgraded to meet modern threats and come in line with equivalent vehicles. Someone decided that we need to move away from the “CVRT mentality” and that the CT40 and new turret cannot be fitted to warrior in a cost effective manner.