CH-47 Chinook (Boeing)

Emlékszem még egy pár éve milyen nagy hype-ja volt a fórumon a kis helikoptereknek. Sokan mondogatták hogy, a Mi-8/17 méretű közepes kategória nekünk túl nagy és nem tudjuk kihasználni, meg minek is nagy gép, mikor a kicsivel mindent(is) meglehet oldani. És hogy itt vannak rá kellett jönnünk, hogy nem. A méretet és teljesítményt nem lehet darab számmal helyettesíteni.
 
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Luthero said:
Emlékszem még egy pár éve milyen nagy hype-ja volt a fórumon a kis helikoptereknek. Sokan mondogatták hogy, a Mi-8/17 méretű közepes kategória nekünk túl nagy és nem tudjuk kihasználni, meg minek is nagy gép, mikor a kicsivel mindent(is) meglehet oldani. És hogy itt vannak rá kellett jönnünk, hogy nem. A méretet és teljesítményt nem lehet darab számmal helyettesíteni.
Kattints ide a kinyitáshoz...
Háát pedig...
Példának pont jó a @rudi által betett link, amin fel volt sorolva pár extrém szállítás.
Ha jobban végiggondolod, a tehertérben való járműszállítás idehaza gyakorlatilag értelmetlen. Talán a KRD-t tudom elképzelni, hogy egyes különleges esetekben használná ezt ki. Nem nagyon lesz olyan járműve a MH-nak, amit el tudna vinni akár a Chinook is. Talán a G Merci, de a többi mind nagyobb. Az MRZR meg ugye egyelőre csak a KRD-nek van.
A képeken nagyon sok felesleges helikopteres szállítás is szerepel. Hogy ezek mégis megtörténtek azt az iraki és afgán remote jellegű helyszínei indokolják.
Idehaza ezzel nem kell számolni.
Marad az élőerő szállítása. Akár egészségesen, akár hordányon. Alapvetően mindkettő megoldható kisebb helikopterekkel is, így szimplán csak gazdaságosabb.
Az utánpótlás szállításában és a külső függesztett teherszállításban van szerintem létjogosultsága a Chinooknak idehaza.
 
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:hadonaszos:R O H A M D E S S Z A N T C H I N O O K:hadonaszos:
De a k*ba***** NER miatt nem lehet mer.....
 
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pöcshuszár said:
Az utánpótlás szállításában és a külső függesztett teherszállításban van szerintem létjogosultsága a Chinooknak idehaza.
Kattints ide a kinyitáshoz...

Abban viszont igencsak lenne: a H225M, amennyire kedvelem, mar a jelenlegi D20-at sem kepes elvinni (5.7t vs 4.8t max sling load), nemhogy barmi nehezebbet, a Block II meg elvisz akar kettot is. :cool:
Ha lenne ra keret, akkor 3-4 ilyen uj Block II elferne, az a ~11t fellogatott kulso teher azert az tobb, mint a duplaja a Caracalenak (ami viszont kifogastalanul megfelel csapatszallitasra.)
Gondolj bele, ket Chinook elvinne akar a szerelmedet, a Bronco 3-at is, mind a 16 fovel es az osszes malhaval egyutt.:D
 
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"WASHINGTON, March 16, 2021 -

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of the Netherlands of CH-47 Pilot Training and Logistics Support and related equipment for an estimated cost of $125 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of the Netherlands has requested support for the Royal Netherlands Air Force CH-47 training program, to include fuel; base operating support; facilities; publications and technical documentation; pilot training; personnel training and training equipment; weapon system and software support; U.S. Government and contractor technical, engineering, and logistics personnel services; and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total overall estimated value is $125 million.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a NATO ally which is an important force for the political stability and economic progress in Europe.

The proposed sale will improve the Netherlands’ capability to maintain a set of highly trained and deployment-ready Royal Netherlands Air Force Chinook units via continued training activities at Fort Hood, Texas. This training includes the AMERICAN FALCON exercise, which serves as a certifying event for Dutch military units and personnel to deploy abroad, often supporting U.S.-led coalition operations. The Netherlands will have no difficulty absorbing this training and support into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

This proposed sale does not contain any principal contractor. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to the Netherlands.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded."
 
WASHINGTON, April 29, 2021

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Australia of CH-47F Chinook Helicopters and related equipment for an estimated cost of $259 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Australia has requested to buy four (4) CH-47F cargo helicopters with customer-unique modifications; eight (8) T55-GA-714A aircraft turbine engines, five (5) AN/AAR-57 Common Missile Warning Systems (CMWS); eight (8) Embedded Global Positioning System (GPS)/Inertial Navigation Systems (INS/EGI) +429; and two (2) EAGLE+429 Embedded Global Positioning System (GPS)/Inertial Navigation Systems (INS/EGI). Also included is mission equipment; communication and navigation equipment; spare parts and components; special tools and test equipment; publications and technical manuals; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, maintenance, technical, and logistical support services, and other related elements of program and logistical support. The total estimated value is $259 million.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States. Australia is one of our most important allies in the Western Pacific. The strategic location of this political and economic power contributes significantly to ensuring peace and economic stability in the region. It is vital to the U.S. national interest to assist our ally in developing and maintaining a strong and ready self-defense capability.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will improve Australia’s capability to meet current and future threats, increase operational capabilities, strengthen its homeland defense and promote military cooperation.

The proposed sale of this equipment will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

These aircraft will be provided from U.S. Army stock. The purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor(s).

Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. or contractor representatives.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded.
 
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Most húzott el egy ch-47 Debrecen felett nagyjából észak-déli irányban... a furcsa rotorhangra kaptam fel a fejem.
 
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