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AIM-120 AMRAAM

Diskurzus a(z) 'Fegyverzet és szenzorok' témában - GrGLy által indítva @ 2013. január 5..

  1. megazez

    megazez Well-Known Member

    Most keresgéltem egy kicsit a lengyelek 150db-ot vettek 250M$-ért...
    Hát igen nagyjából középmezőnyi árazást kaptunk.
     
  2. fedett_mókus

    fedett_mókus Well-Known Member

    pontosan , én szerintem ahhoz képest hogy eddig mennyire szartunk Trumpra elég oké ár , nyilván a lengyelek meg megfizetik/megfizették már máshol
     
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  3. rudi

    rudi Well-Known Member

    Az Ausztrálok a 120-D változatot kapták ami már egy más kategória.
    A többi OK
     
  4. fedett_mókus

    fedett_mókus Well-Known Member

    jaj , azt elnéztem akkor sry
     
  5. gacsat

    gacsat Well-Known Member

    Ők olcsóbban kapják a Dt, mint mi a C7et?
     
  6. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    WASHINGTON, October 17, 2019 -

    The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Korea of 120 AIM-120C-7/C-8 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM) with support for an estimated cost of $253 million.

    The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

    The Republic of Korea (ROK) has requested to buy one hundred twenty (120) AIM-120C-7/C-8 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM). Also included are containers; weapon support and support equipment; spare and repair parts; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical, and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated program cost is $253 million.

    This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States by meeting the legitimate security and defense needs of one of the closest allies in the INDOPACOM Theater. The Republic of Korea is one of the major political and economic powers in East Asia and the Western Pacific and a key partner of the United States in ensuring peace and stability in that region. It is vital to U.S. national interests to assist the Republic of Korea in developing and maintaining a strong and ready self-defense capability.

    This proposed sale will improve the ROK capability to meet current and future threats by increasing its stocks of medium range missiles for its F-15K, KF-16, and F-35 fleets for its national defense. The potential sale will further strengthen the interoperability between the United States and the ROK. The ROK will have no difficulty absorbing these additional missiles into its armed forces.

    The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

    The principal contractor will be Raytheon of Waltham, MA. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the Purchaser and the prime contractor.

    Implementation of the proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to the ROK.

    There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

    This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.
     
  7. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    "Dec. 27, 2019.: Raytheon Missile Systems Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $768 million non-competitive fixed-price incentive (firm) contract for Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) Production Lot 33. This contract provides for the production of the AMRAAM missiles, captive air training missiles, guidance sections, AMRAAM telemetry system, spares and other production engineering support hardware. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, with an expected completion date of Feb. 28, 2023. This contract involves unclassified foreign military sales to Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Indonesia, Japan, Kuwait, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Qatar, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Turkey and United Kingdom, which accounts for 47% of the contract value. "

    Mindenki közte van akinek az utóbbi időben megkapta az engedélyt, kivéve Magyarország.
     
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  8. pöcshuszár

    pöcshuszár Well-Known Member

    Ezzel a szerződéssel én is találkoztam, de addig nem akartam betenni, amíg nem látok bármilyen másik kiegészítő infót róla.
    A gond az, hogy nem stimmelnek a számok.
    Ugyebár mi 180db-ra kaptunk engedélyt 500M USD összegben. (OK, abban voltak kiegészítő tételek, szolgáltatások is!)
    Itt viszont fel van sorolva 22 ország. Külön "súlyosbítás, hogy azt írják a 768M-ból 47% a UK-re jut. Azaz 361M USD. A többi 21-re meg összesen 407M.
    Még ha rakétánként 1M-ra vesszük az árat (nemzetközileg ez inkább 2x-ese), akkor is felhasználónként 20db rakétáról lenne szó. Namost ennél még a Szlovákok is többet fognak rendelni. De hogy Japán, meg Ausztrália biztosan, az 150%.
    Szóval ez valamifajta kiegészítő/ráfizető szerződés lehet a fejlesztett lott33-asok szállítására, vagy arra való felfejlesztésre.
    Hogy mi miért nem szereplünk benne?
    - vagy már eredetileg is a lot33-ra szólt a szerződésünk
    - vagy még (a NASAMS tökölés miatt) nincs is aláírt végleges szerződésünk. De a 500M-s keret már magában foglalja a Lot33-at is
    Egyébként, így hirtelen nem nagyon találtam pontos infót a Lot33 fejlesztéseire. Annyit találtam csak, hogy 2017-ben megvágták az amerikaiak hazai megrendelését, mivel
    le kellett cserélni (elvileg csak modernizálták) a vezérlés majd felét, és ezek fejlesztése, gyártása nem ütem szerint haladt.
    Hirtelen utána nézve: 2019-ben a 1,54 M USD áron kapta az amerikai kormány a gyártól a rakétákat. Ennél nem hiszem, hogy olcsóbban kapták ebben az esetben sem, ami azt jelenti, hogy a 22 országnak minimálisan kevesebb, mint 500db-bal kellene gazdálkodni.
    Még egy adalék: Korea 120db-ot rendelt idén októberben. ;)

    Az upgrade elméletemet erősíti, a következő link is:
     
  9. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member


    Én úgy értelmeztem, hogy a 47% az a nemamerikai rendelések összesen. Ezek az országok nem ebből a lot-bol kapjak meg az összes megrendelt rakétájukat, csak valamennyit. Illetve nem biztos hogy annyit rendeltek végül ezek az országok, mint amennyire engedélyt kaptak. A szlovákoknak 14 F-16-ost és 30 rakétát hagytak jóvá. Kb 2022 végén vagy 2023 tavaszán kapják meg az első F-16-osokat, de azok kinn maradnak az USA-ban pilótaképzésre. Nekik biztos nem kell még akkor az összes rakéta. Kb. 600-700 rakéta tartozik egy lot-ba, amit a megrendeleléstől számított 3 éven belül tudnak legyártani és szállítani. A lot fele általában amerikai megrendelés, gondolom ez nekik a prioritás.

    A szerződéseket néztem végig. Ebben azért vannak olyanok is hogy 2018-ban +18 db AIM120D a US NAVY-nek 14,1 millió USD-ért. És 2019-ben +24 gyakorló AMRAAM 9,2 millió USD-ért.


    2017.12.28.
    Raytheon Missile Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $634,204,347 fixed-price-incentive-firm-target contract for Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) production Lot 31. The contract is for the production of the AMRAAM missile and other AMRAAM system items. The AMRAAM system includes the missile, spares and telemetry kits. Work will be performed at Tucson, Arizona, with an expected completion date of Jan. 31, 2020. This contract involves foreign military sales (FMS) to Japan, Korea, Morocco, Poland, Indonesia, Romania, Spain, Turkey, Bahrain and Qatar. Fiscal 2017 production funds in the amount of $409,939,707; fiscal 2017 research and development funds in the amount of $2,955,178; and fiscal operations and maintenance funds of $1,744,172 are being obligated at the time of award, all remaining funding ($219,565,290) is from FMS sources. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity (FA8675-18-C-0003).


    2018.03.23.
    Raytheon Missile Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $523,148,647 fixed-price incentive modification (P00001) to previously awarded contract FA8675-18-C-0003 for Advanced Medium Range Air to Air Missile (AMRAAM) Production Lot 31. This modification provides for AMRAAM Production Lot 32 for the production of the AMRAAM missile and other AMRAAM system items. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be complete by Jan. 31, 2021. This contract involves foreign military sales to Japan, Kuwait, Poland, Indonesia, Qatar, Germany, Australia, and the United Kingdom. Fiscal 2018 production funds in the amount of $308,016,581; fiscal 2018 research and development funds in the amount of $3,569,227; and foreign military sales funds in the amount $211,562,839 are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Air Dominance Contracting Office, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.


    2018.04.24.
    Raytheon Missile Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $12,099,569 fixed-price-incentive contract modification (P00004) to previously awarded contract FA8675-18-C-0003 for Advanced Medium Range Air to Air Missile (AMRAAM) Production Lot 32 field spares and initial depot spares. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be complete by Jan. 31, 2021. This modification involves foreign military sales to Australia, Korea, Qatar, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, and Turkey. Fiscal 2018 production funds in the amount of $4,840,654; fiscal 2018 research and development funds in the amount of $477,392; fiscal 2018 operations and maintenance funds in the amount of $196,793; and foreign military sales funds in the amount of $6,584,730 are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Air Dominance Contracting Office, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.


    2018.05.31.
    Raytheon Missile Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $14,131,006 fixed-price-incentive (firm target) contract modification (P00005) to a previously awarded contract (FA8675-18-C-0003) for Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile production Lot 32, for 18 additional AIM-120D missiles. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, with an expected completion date of Jan. 31, 2021. Fiscal 2018 production funds in the amount of $14,131,006 are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Air Dominance Contracting Office, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.


    2018.12.21.
    Raytheon Missile Systems, Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $9,573,118 firm-fixed-price modification (P00008) to contract FA8675-18-C-0003 for the Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile program. This modification provides for a life of type procurement of known obsolete components in support of production and sustainment through the program of record and procurement of three guidance section refill stations in support of sustainment efforts. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be completed by Dec. 31, 2019. This contract involves Foreign Military Sales (FMS) to Australia, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Morocco, Poland, Qatar, Romania, Spain, and U.K. Air Force and Navy fiscal 2017 procurement funds in the amount of $6,367,933 and FMS funds in the amount of $3,205,185 are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.
     
  10. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member


    2019.04.16.
    Raytheon Missile Systems Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $19,136,527 firm-fixed-price modification (P00011) to previously awarded contract FA8675-18-C-0003 for Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) production program. This modification provides for upgrade and commonality of AMRAAM production test equipment being produced and utilized under the basic contract. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be complete by April 15, 2022. This contract involves unclassified foreign military sales to Australia, Indonesia, Japan, Korea, Morocco, Poland, Qatar, Romania, Spain, and the United Kingdom. Fiscal 2017 procurement funds (Air Force and Navy) in the amount of $12,396,642; and Foreign Military Sales funds in the amount of $6,739,885, are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.


    2019.04.30.
    Raytheon Missile Systems Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $19,313,603 firm-fixed-price modification (P00012) to previously awarded contract FA8675-18-C-0003 for the Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) production program. This modification provides for redesign of AMRAAM Rectifier Filter Assembly for reliability corrections as well as redesign of AMRAAM telemetry encoder due to obsolescence issues. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be complete by April 15, 2021. This contract involves foreign military sales to Australia, Japan, Norway, Romania, and Turkey. Fiscal year 2018 (Air Force) and fiscal year 2017 (Navy) procurement funds in the amount of $6,802,251; and Foreign Military Sales funds in the amount of $4,437,720, are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.


    2019.05.31.
    Raytheon Missile Systems, Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $9,212,539 fixed-price incentive firm contract modification (P00014) to previously awarded contract FA8675-18-C-0003 for the Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) program. This modification provides for the procurement of 24 AMRAAM AIM-120D Captive Air Training Missile guidance sections for the Navy. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be complete by Feb. 28, 2022. Fiscal 2018 production funds (Navy) in the full amount are being obligated at the time of award. Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.


    2019.11.22.
    Raytheon Missile Systems Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $10,954,391 fixed-price incentive (firm) modification (P00018) to previously awarded contract FA8675-18-C-0003 for Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) Production program. This modification provides for acceptance of a voluntary value-engineering change proposal resulting in non-recurring engineering costs for qualification of a second source for the AMRAAM Integrated Wing Restraint rocket motor. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, and is expected to be complete by Dec. 15, 2021. This contract involves foreign military sales to Japan, South Korea, Australia, Indonesia, Spain, United Kingdom, Poland, Romania and Morocco. The total cumulative face value of the contract is $1,252,588,656. Fiscal 2018 missile procurement funds (Air Force and Navy) in the amount of $7,096,254; and Foreign Military Sales funds in the amount of $3,858,137 are being obligated at the time of award. The Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity.


    2019.12.27.
    Raytheon Missile Systems Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $768,283,907 non-competitive fixed-price incentive (firm) contract for Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) Production Lot 33. This contract provides for the production of the AMRAAM missiles, captive air training missiles, guidance sections, AMRAAM telemetry system, spares and other production engineering support hardware. Work will be performed in Tucson, Arizona, with an expected completion date of Feb. 28, 2023. This contract involves unclassified foreign military sales to Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Indonesia, Japan, Kuwait, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Oman, Poland, Qatar, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Turkey and United Kingdom, which accounts for 47% of the contract value. Fiscal 2018 Air Force and Navy procurement funds in the amount of $21,606,031; fiscal 2019 Air Force and Navy procurement funds in the amount of $356,753,259; fiscal 2020 Navy procurement funds in the amount of $4,212,839; fiscal 2019 Air Force research and development funds in the amount of $7,343,150; fiscal 2020 Air Force and Navy research and development funds in the amount of $10,295,601; fiscal 2020 Air Force operation and maintenance funds in the amount of $1,404,956; and foreign military sales funds in the amount of $366,668,071 are being obligated at the time of award. The Air Force Life Cycle Management Center, Air Dominance Division Contracting Office, Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, is the contracting activity (FA8675-20-C-0033).
     
  11. pöcshuszár

    pöcshuszár Well-Known Member

    Ha a 47% az USA-n kívüli, akkor még rosszabb a. Helyzet. Akkor még kisebb összeg jut 1-1 dbra.
    A betett dsca bejelentések jó része viszont tényleg csak árváltoztatás...
     
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  12. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    Kozte van a Lot 31, 32, 33 rendelesei. (nem szerepel sehol Magyarorszag, igy ha valamikor majd rendelnek raketat, az onnan kb. 3 ev lesz a szallitas) A modosositasokbol meg az latszik hogy a Navy tud venni 783 ezer USD-ert is Amraamot.

    Azt nem ertem, hogy amikor a raketan modositanak valamit, annak a koltsege az utolag emeli az arat a felsorolt megrendeloknek? Vagy csak a megrendelo altal fizetett oszeg egy reszenek "cimkezese" tortenik, hogy abbol ennyi ment erre a "technikai fejlesztesre"?
     
  13. pöcshuszár

    pöcshuszár Well-Known Member

    Ezt miből olvastad ki?
     
  14. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    Elírtam...USAF

    "2018.05.31.
    Raytheon Missile Co., Tucson, Arizona, has been awarded a $14,131,006 fixed-price-incentive (firm target) contract modification (P00005) to a previously awarded contract (FA8675-18-C-0003) for Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile production Lot 32, for 18 additional AIM-120D missiles."


    A Navy a gyakorló rakétákat vette 383 ezer USD-ért.

    Találam egy olyan dokumentumot, amiben azt írják hogy:
    Anticipated delivery for AMRAAM Production Lots 34-36 will be from FY 2022 to FY 2025. Anticipated date of Request for Proposal for AMRAAM Production Lots 34-36 is on or about 21 August 2018. Closing date for response to this synopsis for the AMRAAM Production Lots 34-36 is fifteen (15) days after the date of this synopsis publication.

    A Falcon 7x meg 2019 nyarán volt amerikai körúton... ha akkor rendeltek valamit, lehet ebből is kicsúsztak.

    Ha megnézed a bemásolt szerződéseket, abból látszik hogy az országok többsége a Lot 31,32,33-ban is szerepel, azaz minden tételből kapnak valamennyi rakétát. A Lot 32-nél meg az látszik, hogy mennyivel dobja meg a csomag árát az egyéb tételek.


    Production Lot 31: $634,204,347 - 698 rakéta [390 USA (56%) - 308 FMS (44%)] és kiegészítők
    The following missiles were purchased on the Lot 31 contract: 246 Air Force, 144 Navy and 25 FMS Air Intercept Missile-120D (AIM-120D) missiles. 10 Air Force AIM-120D Instrumented Missiles, 184 Telemetry Kits and 283 FMS AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM missiles. Lot 31 missile deliveries begin in May 2019 and are projected to be complete by April 2020.


    Production Lot 32: $523,148,647 - 584 rakéta [305 USA (52%) - 279 FMS (48%)] és kiegészítők
    The following missiles were purchased on the Lot 32 contract: 185 Air Force, 120 Navy and 54 FMS AIM-120D missiles. 154 Telemetry Kits and 225 FMS AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM missiles. Lot 32 missile deliveries begin in July 2020 and are projected to be complete by January 2021.

    The contract price was updated from $634.2M to $1186.8M due to the exercise of Lot 32 in March 2018, the Lot 32 additional spares (Field and Depot), additional Navy missiles, and Form. Fit, Function Refresh program transition to Production activities.


    Production Lot 33: $768,283,907 - USA 53% - FMS 47%
    USAF Funds will procure 220 AIM-120D missiles. Navy:??? FMS:???
    expected completion date of Feb. 28, 2023
     
  15. Terminator

    Terminator Well-Known Member

    Production Lot 33: $768,283,907 - 681 rakéta [361 USA (53%) - 320 FMS (47%)] és kiegészítők
    USAF Funds will procure 220 AIM-120D missiles. Navy:141 -> FMS: 320
    expected completion date of Feb. 28, 2023
     

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