[HUN] Saab JAS-39EBS-HU Gripen

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Van még hely bőven a vezérsíkon! :D
 
Ez a nap híre és még senki sem írta meg.....


180 AMRAAM-ot akar venni a Honvédség 500 millió USD-ért!



"WASHINGTON, August 27, 2019

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Hungary of one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM ) with support for an estimated cost of $500 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on August 27, 2019.

The Government of Hungary has requested to buy one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM), and four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM guidance sections. Also included are four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 control sections, six (6) AMRAAM training missiles (CATM-120C), missile containers, classified software (for the AN/MPQ-64F1 Sentinel Radar requested by Hungary through Direct Commercial Sale), spare and repair parts, cryptographic and communication security devices, precision navigation equipment, other software, site surveys, weapons system equipment and computer software support, publications and technical documentation, common munitions and test equipment, repair and return services and equipment, personnel training and training equipment, integration support and test equipment, and U.S. Government and contractor, engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated cost is $500 million.


The prime contractor and integrator will be Raytheon Missile Systems of Tucson, AZ. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale."
 
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Ezt is nekem kell elsőnek megírni?!? :cool:

Ez a nap híre és még senki sem írta meg.....


180 AMRAAM-ot akar venni a Honvédség 500 millió USD-ért!



"WASHINGTON, August 27, 2019

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Hungary of one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM ) with support for an estimated cost of $500 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on August 27, 2019.

The Government of Hungary has requested to buy one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM), and four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM guidance sections. Also included are four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 control sections, six (6) AMRAAM training missiles (CATM-120C), missile containers, classified software (for the AN/MPQ-64F1 Sentinel Radar requested by Hungary through Direct Commercial Sale), spare and repair parts, cryptographic and communication security devices, precision navigation equipment, other software, site surveys, weapons system equipment and computer software support, publications and technical documentation, common munitions and test equipment, repair and return services and equipment, personnel training and training equipment, integration support and test equipment, and U.S. Government and contractor, engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated cost is $500 million.


The prime contractor and integrator will be Raytheon Missile Systems of Tucson, AZ. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale."
Ha jobban megnézed, akkor ezek a NASAMS amerikai részei.
 
Ezt is nekem kell elsőnek megírni?!? :cool:

Ez a nap híre és még senki sem írta meg.....


180 AMRAAM-ot akar venni a Honvédség 500 millió USD-ért!



"WASHINGTON, August 27, 2019

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Hungary of one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM ) with support for an estimated cost of $500 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on August 27, 2019.

The Government of Hungary has requested to buy one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM), and four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM guidance sections. Also included are four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 control sections, six (6) AMRAAM training missiles (CATM-120C), missile containers, classified software (for the AN/MPQ-64F1 Sentinel Radar requested by Hungary through Direct Commercial Sale), spare and repair parts, cryptographic and communication security devices, precision navigation equipment, other software, site surveys, weapons system equipment and computer software support, publications and technical documentation, common munitions and test equipment, repair and return services and equipment, personnel training and training equipment, integration support and test equipment, and U.S. Government and contractor, engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated cost is $500 million.


The prime contractor and integrator will be Raytheon Missile Systems of Tucson, AZ. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale."
180! Basszus... Azt hiszem, ezt vehetjük hivatalos NASAMS érdeklődésnek.
 
Ezt is nekem kell elsőnek megírni?!? :cool:

Ez a nap híre és még senki sem írta meg.....


180 AMRAAM-ot akar venni a Honvédség 500 millió USD-ért!



"WASHINGTON, August 27, 2019

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Hungary of one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM ) with support for an estimated cost of $500 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on August 27, 2019.

The Government of Hungary has requested to buy one hundred and eighty (180) AIM-120C-7 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM), and four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM guidance sections. Also included are four (4) spare AIM-120C-7 control sections, six (6) AMRAAM training missiles (CATM-120C), missile containers, classified software (for the AN/MPQ-64F1 Sentinel Radar requested by Hungary through Direct Commercial Sale), spare and repair parts, cryptographic and communication security devices, precision navigation equipment, other software, site surveys, weapons system equipment and computer software support, publications and technical documentation, common munitions and test equipment, repair and return services and equipment, personnel training and training equipment, integration support and test equipment, and U.S. Government and contractor, engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated cost is $500 million.


The prime contractor and integrator will be Raytheon Missile Systems of Tucson, AZ. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale."
háát ez naaaagyon érdekes , micsoda meglepetéééés :oops::oops::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
500M$ rakétákra, volt itt pár napja egy cikk de istennek nem találom, amiben az volt, hogy a Raytheonnal 1000M$-os üzletről beszélgetnek a másik 500M$ így már elég valószínű, hogy a NASAMS rendszer többi elemét fogja takarni.
Na de még mindig ott a Lockheed-el szintén 1000M$-os tárgyalás ami a cikkben volt.
 
Azért a 40 db Amraam mellé a Gripenekre is kellene még, főleg ha több Gripen is lesz...
 
Hát itt lehet off:
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sal...vanced-medium-range-air-air-missiles-amraam-0
Japán 160db-ot vett 317M$-ért ami ~2M$/db
Nekünk egy kicsit vastagabbra jön: 180db 500M$ ami ~2,7M$/db
El ne oszdd darabra. A lengyelek a feléért kaptak 150db-ot.
Csak náluk sokkal kevesebb dolog volt benne, mivel ott az F-16-osokra vették meg. A NASAMS II miatt egy csomó kiegészítő elem, és support kapcsolódik:
"spare and repair parts, cryptographic and communication security devices, precision navigation equipment, other software, site surveys, weapons system equipment and computer software support, publications and technical documentation, common munitions and test equipment, repair and return services and equipment, personnel training and training equipment, integration support and test equipment, and U.S. Government and contractor, engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support." Ez simán lefedi a különbséget, na meg a plusz 30db rakéta....
 
El ne oszdd darabra. A lengyelek a feléért kaptak 150db-ot.
Csak náluk sokkal kevesebb dolog volt benne, mivel ott az F-16-osokra vették meg. A NASAMS II miatt egy csomó kiegészítő elem, és support kapcsolódik:
"spare and repair parts, cryptographic and communication security devices, precision navigation equipment, other software, site surveys, weapons system equipment and computer software support, publications and technical documentation, common munitions and test equipment, repair and return services and equipment, personnel training and training equipment, integration support and test equipment, and U.S. Government and contractor, engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support." Ez simán lefedi a különbséget, na meg a plusz 30db rakéta....

Szerintem ez szabványszöveg. Minden AIM-120 eladásban benne van.

Csak ez a különbség:
"classified software (for the AN/MPQ-64F1 Sentinel Radar requested by Hungary through Direct Commercial Sale)"
 
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Hát itt lehet off:
https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sal...vanced-medium-range-air-air-missiles-amraam-0
Japán 160db-ot vett 317M$-ért ami ~2M$/db
Nekünk egy kicsit vastagabbra jön: 180db 500M$ ami ~2,7M$/db
még így se vészes
El ne oszdd darabra. A lengyelek a feléért kaptak 150db-ot.
Csak náluk sokkal kevesebb dolog volt benne, mivel ott az F-16-osokra vették meg. A NASAMS II miatt egy csomó kiegészítő elem, és support kapcsolódik:
"spare and repair parts, cryptographic and communication security devices, precision navigation equipment, other software, site surveys, weapons system equipment and computer software support, publications and technical documentation, common munitions and test equipment, repair and return services and equipment, personnel training and training equipment, integration support and test equipment, and U.S. Government and contractor, engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support." Ez simán lefedi a különbséget, na meg a plusz 30db rakéta....
sablonszöveg , leírtam már, a lengyelek megfizetik/megfizették már máshogy
 
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Szerintem ez szabványszöveg. Minden AIM-120 eladásban benne van.

Csak ez a különbség:
"classified software (for the AN/MPQ-64F1 Sentinel Radar requested by Hungary through Direct Commercial Sale)"
Nem igazán.
Pl.: az idei Japán üzletnél csak ennyi szerepelt: "Also included are containers, weapon support and support equipment, spare and repair parts, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistical support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support."
DE nagyjából a 2018-asnál is.
A lengyeleknél majdnem ugyan ez:
Also included are missile containers, weapon system support, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support.
 
még így se vészes

sablonszöveg , leírtam már, a lengyelek megfizetik/megfizették már máshogy
Az a helyzet, hogy amíg ezek az előterjesztések olyan részletességgel szerepelnek, mint ahogy a pl. a mostani cseh 8+4 helikopteres beszerzésben, ahol gyakorlatilag majdnem minden fedélzeti berendezést kirészleteztek, mint egyedi rendelést, így a minálunk általánosnak tűnő elemek is egészen pontos összetevők lehetnek.
És az a durva, hogy az ilyen kiegészítő, és szolgáltatási (support) dolgok szoktak irdatlan drágák lenni.
Lásd még a Portugálok KC-390-eseinél.
 
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Az a helyzet, hogy amíg ezek az előterjesztések olyan részletességgel szerepelnek, mint ahogy a pl. a mostani cseh 8+4 helikopteres beszerzésben, ahol gyakorlatilag majdnem minden fedélzeti berendezést kirészleteztek, mint egyedi rendelést, így a minálunk általánosnak tűnő elemek is egészen pontos összetevők lehetnek.
És az a durva, hogy az ilyen kiegészítő, és szolgáltatási (support) dolgok szoktak irdatlan drágák lenni.
Lásd még a Portugálok KC-390-eseinél.
Igeen , ééés ezzel most mire szerettél volna célozni ? :D