Na akkor ok, mert Putyin sem akarja bevetni az atomot csak ha megtámadnák őket.
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Ezen témában - a fórumon rendhagyó módon - az oldal üzemeltetője saját álláspontja, meggyőződése alapján nem enged bizonyos véleményeket, mivel meglátása szerint az káros a járványhelyzet enyhítését célzó törekvésekre.
Kérünk, hogy a vírus veszélyességét kétségbe vonó, oltásellenes véleményed más platformon fejtsd ki. Nálunk ennek nincs helye. Az ilyen hozzászólásokért 1 alkalommal figyelmeztetés jár, majd folytatása esetén a témáról letiltás. Arra is kérünk, hogy a fórum más témáiba ne vigyétek át, mert azért viszont már a fórum egészéről letiltás járhat hosszabb-rövidebb időre.
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Ami nem a topik témájába vág vagy akár csak erősebb hangnemben is kerül megfogalmazásra, az valamilyen formában szankcionálva lesz
Minden olyan hozzászólásért ami nem hír, vagy szorosan a konfliktushoz kapcsolódó vélemény / elemzés azért instant 3 nap topic letiltás jár. Aki pedig ezzel trükközne és folytatná másik topicban annak 2 hónap fórum ban a jussa.
Na akkor ok, mert Putyin sem akarja bevetni az atomot csak ha megtámadnák őket.
A szovjetek valamikor a nyolcvanas években szembesültek vele, hogy nem lesz felzárkózás, nem tudja a Szovjetúnió gazdasági értelemben megugrani a szuperhatalmi mércét. A hetvenes évek is még az ábrándokról szólt, amihez méretezték az arzenáljukat, mert Sztálin anno így találta ki és az ő sorvezetője mentén futott a Szovjetúnió történelme jóval halála után is. Olyannyira, hogy máig nem tudtak ettől elszakadni az oroszok, miközben már annyi esélyük sincs erre, mint a Szovjetúnió idején az ország méretéből adódóan még volt.
Amikor a nyolcvanas évekre kiábrándult a szovjet lakosság a felzárkózás ábrándjából és tudomásul vette a tényt, hogy a Nyugat sokkal fejlettebb alapozódott meg egy reálpolitika, amit aztán erőskezű vezető hijján nem tudtak kihasználni az állam újrapozícionálására. Putyinnal a klasszikus szovjet politika jött vissza cél és értelem nélkül és mára az oroszok javával újra elhitették, vagy inkább igényük támadt rá, hogy higgyenek egy küldetéstudatban az orosz létezés kapcsán, mert a lehetőséget az erős orosz nagyhatalmiságra, mondjuk Kína szintén elszalasztották a Jelcin érában, amikor volt realitásérzék a szovjet álmok végleges elvetésére, de vezetői akarat nem létezett hozzá.
Azért BLOGEN kb. egy hete minden nap azt fejtegeti itt reggeltől estig, hogy az USA el akarja törölni OO-t a Föld színéről. És nem is csak akarná ezt, hanem meg is tudná tenni... sőt még azt is írta, hogy ezzel csak jót tenne a világnak az USA. Innen indulva nem tudom mire vélni a hozzászolásodat. Szerecsenmosdatás, vagy valami más? Ha más, akkor mi?
Te nem gondolkodsz. Az oroszok nem ötszázra, hanem az amerikaival paritásban csökkentették az arzenáljukat. Magyarán épp az nem történt meg, amit csökkentésnek nevezhetnénk. Az orosz arzenál még mindig szovjet szintű, mert nem egy töredéke az amerikainak, amit az orosz állam léptéke diktálna, hanem ahhoz hasonló léptékű, mint az amerikai.
Én magyarként átértelmezem Putyin szövegét. Az én szemszögömből nézve nincsen értelme egy MO nélküli világnak. Érthető?
Most akkor ez fáj neked? Ne legyél már annyira okos, hogy meghatározd más országoknak, hogy mire költsék a nemzeti összterméküket. Az oroszok atomra, mi meg futball arénákra költünk. Ez utóbbin már minden ellenfelünk nevet. Azért az orosz atomarzenálon legfeljebb te, meg az elvtársaid (Kalapács, Dinamó, stb...)
A mostani vámolás a blokádnak még csak az előszele. Így kezdődik. Igen, nincs joguk blokád alá vonni Kínát, de meg fogják tenni. Körbeveszik a kínai partokat szövetséges országok segítségével és veszélyeztetni fogják a kínai kereskedelmet, miközben válságba taszítják azokat az országokat/hatalmakat, amelyek Kínától vásárolnak (EU), hogy így fosszák meg Kínát az export-piacaiktól. (Megj.: ezzel párhuzamosan a szárazföldi kínai útvonalakat is ellehetetlenítik - káoszcsinálással -, és ebben az oroszok is segíteni fogják őket.)
Szerintem nem. Én legalább 10-15 éves távlatban még valószínűsíteném a kínai-orosz partnerséget. Szerintem felismerték, ha nem fognak össze, akkor egyenként próbálják ellehetetleníteni őket. OO problémája a kis lakosságszám. Kínával megtoldva, pont ezen a téren erősíthetnének.
És én is egyetértek Putyinnal: nekem sincs szükségem egy olyan világra, amelyben nem létezik Oroszország. (És olyanra sem, amelyben nem létezik Magyarország).
Ha az afrikaiak szaporodhatnak milliárdszámra, akkor nehogy már ennek a 150 millió orosznak ne lehessen joga a létezésre.
Oroszországra óriási szükség van. Mert csak Oroszország és Kína szabhat határt az amerikai gőgnek és annak az amerikai törekvésnek, hogy úgy maradjanak a világ urai, hogy közben káoszba taszítanak mindenki mást, eltörölve ezzel több ezer éves kultúrákat a Föld színéről. És ne feledd blogen, hogy anno a SZU a világgazdaság 25%-át adta, akkor érvelésed szerint a világnak szüksége volt a SZU-ra? Ja, hogy abban az esetben már nem érdekes a világgazdaságban elfoglalt hely, mint érv.
Nanananana! Ezt kb. 2 hete mondta ELŐSZÖR Putyin, miután már ezernyi területen évek óta fenyegetitek és megalázzátok Oroszországot. Például olyan dolgokkal, hogy még a sportolóik sem indulhattak a saját országuk nemzeti színeiben az olimpián. Szóval ne cseréld fel az időbeli sorrendiséget!!!
Dehogynem, kapásból itt van egy, aki ezt akarja: blogen.
Ehhez azért nagy arc kell, hogy valaki szerinted azért legyen bűnös, hogy katonai ereje nem akar az amerikai töredéke lenni.
Na azon csak addig fognak nevetni, amíg be nem lesznek zárva hadifogolyként a futball stadionjainkba...
Valójában véve az USA az, amely újraépíti a Szovjetuniót. Ezt pedig most teszik, nem pedig 10-15 év múlva. Azért teszik, mert az USA-nak szüksége van egy új Szovjetunióra Kínával szemben. Ahogy anno Kína segítségével döntötték be a SZU-t, most az új SZU segítségével fogják bedönteni Kínát. Ez az új amerikai külpolitika lényege.
https://ejmagnier.com/2018/03/28/wi...-the-russian-bear-and-the-chinese-dragon-1-3/
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Elijah Magnier - How Syria Challenges The Unipolar Order
Today Elijah Magnier published a three part piece on the war on Syria and its role in the much the global political confrontation.
Will America accept its defeat or will it challenge the Russian Bear and the Chinese Dragon? - Part 1, 2, 3
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The first part describes the current situation at the various fronts in Syria and the most likely next operations. The Syrian government is winning the conflict. U.S. CentCom General Votel admittedthat the U.S. strategy in Syria has failed. Magnier concludes:
The US has lost the « extremist battle »- they were incapable of achieving the “regime change” objective in Syria. That was the awakening of the Russian bear from its long hibernation who realised how the US was trying to corner it. Moscow also relied on the Chinese dragon, which shares Russia’s goals to eliminate all extremists and jihadist terrorists in Syria.
Both Russia and China are now working closely to put an end to the uni-polar superpower and thus end US world dominance.
The second part looks at the development of U.S.-Russian relations over the last decade and the role U.S. 'regime change' policies in the eastern Europe and Middle East played in it. The U.S. attack on Syria was part of the wider challenging of Russia. It brought up a new coalition which is now countering U.S. moves:
Obama saw the “Islamic State” growing in Iraq, moving to Syria, watched it occupying Iraq, allowed Jihadists to travel to the Middle East, opened all Saudi jails on condition jihadist extremists imprisoned are shipped to Syria. For one entire year, with “70 countries in a coalition fighting against ISIS” in Syria, the group was in fact expanding and increasing its wealth by selling increasing quantities of oil. All that to stop Iran and Russia, and create failed states (as in Libya) and fight Muslims with Muslims.
But Moscow, Beijing and Tehran knew that Jihadists must be stopped in the Levant before they had the chance to move to their own countries.
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Syria is not going to be another Libya and Russia and China agreed, along with Iran, to stop once and for all the US unilateral dominance at the gates of the Levant.
Part 3 takes an even wider view and describes how China, and the Russian-Chinese cooperation, succeeds in challenging U.S. unilateral domination of the globe:
While the United States is selling for $110 billions weapons to Saudi Arabia to kill more Yemenis and threaten its neighbours (Qatar, Syria and Iran), Russia has signed 10 year contracts with China worth 600 billion dollars, and with Iran worth 400 billion dollars. Also, China has signed contracts with Iran worth 400 billion dollars. These contracts are aimed at economic cooperation, energy exchange; they promise an advanced economic future for these countries away from US dominance.
The US believes it can corner Russia, China and Iran: Russia has a 7,000 kilometre border with China, Iran is not Iraq and Syria is not Afghanistan. In Syria, the destiny of that a world be ruled by unilateralism is over. The world is heading toward pluralism.
The question remains: Is Washington prepared to accept its defeat and acknowledge that it has lost control of the world and pull out of Syria?
With the recent visit of the North Korean leader Kim Yong-un in Beijing, China has challenged the dominating U.S. role in the discussions over North Korea. There will be no uni-polar U.S. solution in the conflict - neither by talks nor by war. A conflict over Korea could soon supersede the conflict in Syria in size and potential consequences. In the global context the war on Syria is just a starting point. It will likely be in Korea, and maybe in Taiwan, where the real battle between unilateral and multilateral order will be fought.
elemezve itt
Elijah Magnier - How Syria Challenges The Unipolar Order
Today Elijah Magnier published a three part piece on the war on Syria and its role in the much the global political confrontation.
Will America accept its defeat or will it challenge the Russian Bear and the Chinese Dragon? - Part 1, 2, 3
bigger
The first part describes the current situation at the various fronts in Syria and the most likely next operations. The Syrian government is winning the conflict. U.S. CentCom General Votel admittedthat the U.S. strategy in Syria has failed. Magnier concludes:
The US has lost the « extremist battle »- they were incapable of achieving the “regime change” objective in Syria. That was the awakening of the Russian bear from its long hibernation who realised how the US was trying to corner it. Moscow also relied on the Chinese dragon, which shares Russia’s goals to eliminate all extremists and jihadist terrorists in Syria.
Both Russia and China are now working closely to put an end to the uni-polar superpower and thus end US world dominance.
The second part looks at the development of U.S.-Russian relations over the last decade and the role U.S. 'regime change' policies in the eastern Europe and Middle East played in it. The U.S. attack on Syria was part of the wider challenging of Russia. It brought up a new coalition which is now countering U.S. moves:
Obama saw the “Islamic State” growing in Iraq, moving to Syria, watched it occupying Iraq, allowed Jihadists to travel to the Middle East, opened all Saudi jails on condition jihadist extremists imprisoned are shipped to Syria. For one entire year, with “70 countries in a coalition fighting against ISIS” in Syria, the group was in fact expanding and increasing its wealth by selling increasing quantities of oil. All that to stop Iran and Russia, and create failed states (as in Libya) and fight Muslims with Muslims.
But Moscow, Beijing and Tehran knew that Jihadists must be stopped in the Levant before they had the chance to move to their own countries.
...
Syria is not going to be another Libya and Russia and China agreed, along with Iran, to stop once and for all the US unilateral dominance at the gates of the Levant.
Part 3 takes an even wider view and describes how China, and the Russian-Chinese cooperation, succeeds in challenging U.S. unilateral domination of the globe:
While the United States is selling for $110 billions weapons to Saudi Arabia to kill more Yemenis and threaten its neighbours (Qatar, Syria and Iran), Russia has signed 10 year contracts with China worth 600 billion dollars, and with Iran worth 400 billion dollars. Also, China has signed contracts with Iran worth 400 billion dollars. These contracts are aimed at economic cooperation, energy exchange; they promise an advanced economic future for these countries away from US dominance.
The US believes it can corner Russia, China and Iran: Russia has a 7,000 kilometre border with China, Iran is not Iraq and Syria is not Afghanistan. In Syria, the destiny of that a world be ruled by unilateralism is over. The world is heading toward pluralism.
The question remains: Is Washington prepared to accept its defeat and acknowledge that it has lost control of the world and pull out of Syria?
With the recent visit of the North Korean leader Kim Yong-un in Beijing, China has challenged the dominating U.S. role in the discussions over North Korea. There will be no uni-polar U.S. solution in the conflict - neither by talks nor by war. A conflict over Korea could soon supersede the conflict in Syria in size and potential consequences. In the global context the war on Syria is just a starting point. It will likely be in Korea, and maybe in Taiwan, where the real battle between unilateral and multilateral order will be fought.
This Associated Press story has quite a slant.
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Looking into the AP report we find that the "watchdog group" is actually a for-profit company with an anti-Iran agenda and paid by the United Arab Emirates. The UAE, together with Saudi Arabia, the U.S. and Britain, is waging war on Yemen and sees Iran as an enemy:
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Roadside bombs disguised as rocks in Yemen bear similarities to others used by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon and by insurgents in Iraq and Bahrain, suggesting at the least an Iranian influence in their manufacture, a watchdog group said on Monday.
The report by Conflict Armament Research comes as the West and United Nations researchers accuse Iran of supplying arms to Yemen’s Shiite rebels known as Houthis, who have held the country’s capital since September 2014.
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“What we’re hoping this does is make plausible deniability not very plausible,” said Tim Michetti, head of regional operations for Conflict Armament Research. “You can’t really deny this anymore once the components these things are made with are traced to Iranian distributors.”
Michetti’s organization, an independent watchdog group that receives funding from the United Arab Emirates, Germany and the European Union to research weaponry recovered in Yemen, said it examined a fake rock bomb in January near Mokha, some 250 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of the capital, Sanaa.
Conflict Armament Research is not an "independent watchdog group" but a dully established British for-profit company registered at the British government's Companies House under company number 07762809. The sole owner is James Bevan, a British national born in 1977.
Cont. reading: Arms Research "Watchdog Group" Lobbies For War On Yemen And Iran
Posted by b at 03:10 PM | Comments (54)
March 26, 2018
more money for U.S. missile defense:
The Pentagon would spend an additional $1 billion on two of Lockheed’s missile defense systems, bringing total appropriations for the Missile Defense Agency to $11.5 billion.
More U.S. taxpayer money will also be given to missile defense contractors in Israel:
Congress has dramatically increased its budget for the Israeli missile defense programs by $148 million to include ongoing Iron Dome and Arrow 3 development.
“I am pleased and excited to announce that the US Congress has approved a record sum for Israel’s missile defense program: $705m. in 2018!” Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman announced on Monday.
Two incidents last night provide again that missile defense is a waste of money. It hardly ever works. Strategic missile defense, which the U.S. builds to take down intercontinental missiles, will not protect against the new weapons Russia and others are now pursuing. The U.S. military acknowledges this. After Putin announced the new weapon systems the Trump administration raised the white flag and suddenly asked for new arms control talks.
Last night the Yemeni army launched (vid) seven ballistic missiles against Saudi Arabia. Three of those targeted the capital Riyadh, four were aimed at military and infrastructure targets. In Riyadh the Saudi forces fired a a number of Patriot surface-to-air missiles and claimed that those successfully intercepted the Yemeni missiles. The Saudis Patriot Advanced Capabilities-2 system (PAC-2) are made by the U.S. company Raytheon which also hires former U.S. soldiers as 'Patriot Battery Systems Technician Field Engineers' to man and maintain the Saudi systems.
Earlier Saudi claims of successful intercepts turned out to be false. The small warheads of the Yemeni missiles separate from the larger missile body and are difficult to detect. The U.S. provided systems inevitably aims at the bigger empty missile body.
This time various videos from Riyadh show that at least seven interceptors were fired against the three incoming missiles. At least two of the interceptors failed catastrophically. The other five seem to have self-destruct at height. There is no sign of any real interception.
One of the Patriot interceptors prematurely exploded during its boost phase. Its burning debris showered the ground with hot parts.
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Another Patriot interceptor made a u-turn and struck the ground some hundred meters away from random onlookers:
Cont. reading: Two Failures In One Day - Missile Defense Is An Embarrassment - It Won't Work
Posted by b at 12:36 PM | Comments (108)
bigger
Looking into the AP report we find that the "watchdog group" is actually a for-profit company with an anti-Iran agenda and paid by the United Arab Emirates. The UAE, together with Saudi Arabia, the U.S. and Britain, is waging war on Yemen and sees Iran as an enemy:
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Roadside bombs disguised as rocks in Yemen bear similarities to others used by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon and by insurgents in Iraq and Bahrain, suggesting at the least an Iranian influence in their manufacture, a watchdog group said on Monday.
The report by Conflict Armament Research comes as the West and United Nations researchers accuse Iran of supplying arms to Yemen’s Shiite rebels known as Houthis, who have held the country’s capital since September 2014.
...
“What we’re hoping this does is make plausible deniability not very plausible,” said Tim Michetti, head of regional operations for Conflict Armament Research. “You can’t really deny this anymore once the components these things are made with are traced to Iranian distributors.”
Michetti’s organization, an independent watchdog group that receives funding from the United Arab Emirates, Germany and the European Union to research weaponry recovered in Yemen, said it examined a fake rock bomb in January near Mokha, some 250 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of the capital, Sanaa.
Conflict Armament Research is not an "independent watchdog group" but a dully established British for-profit company registered at the British government's Companies House under company number 07762809. The sole owner is James Bevan, a British national born in 1977.
Cont. reading: Arms Research "Watchdog Group" Lobbies For War On Yemen And Iran
Posted by b at 03:10 PM | Comments (54)
March 26, 2018
more money for U.S. missile defense:
The Pentagon would spend an additional $1 billion on two of Lockheed’s missile defense systems, bringing total appropriations for the Missile Defense Agency to $11.5 billion.
More U.S. taxpayer money will also be given to missile defense contractors in Israel:
Congress has dramatically increased its budget for the Israeli missile defense programs by $148 million to include ongoing Iron Dome and Arrow 3 development.
“I am pleased and excited to announce that the US Congress has approved a record sum for Israel’s missile defense program: $705m. in 2018!” Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman announced on Monday.
Two incidents last night provide again that missile defense is a waste of money. It hardly ever works. Strategic missile defense, which the U.S. builds to take down intercontinental missiles, will not protect against the new weapons Russia and others are now pursuing. The U.S. military acknowledges this. After Putin announced the new weapon systems the Trump administration raised the white flag and suddenly asked for new arms control talks.
Last night the Yemeni army launched (vid) seven ballistic missiles against Saudi Arabia. Three of those targeted the capital Riyadh, four were aimed at military and infrastructure targets. In Riyadh the Saudi forces fired a a number of Patriot surface-to-air missiles and claimed that those successfully intercepted the Yemeni missiles. The Saudis Patriot Advanced Capabilities-2 system (PAC-2) are made by the U.S. company Raytheon which also hires former U.S. soldiers as 'Patriot Battery Systems Technician Field Engineers' to man and maintain the Saudi systems.
Earlier Saudi claims of successful intercepts turned out to be false. The small warheads of the Yemeni missiles separate from the larger missile body and are difficult to detect. The U.S. provided systems inevitably aims at the bigger empty missile body.
This time various videos from Riyadh show that at least seven interceptors were fired against the three incoming missiles. At least two of the interceptors failed catastrophically. The other five seem to have self-destruct at height. There is no sign of any real interception.
One of the Patriot interceptors prematurely exploded during its boost phase. Its burning debris showered the ground with hot parts.
bigger
Another Patriot interceptor made a u-turn and struck the ground some hundred meters away from random onlookers:
Cont. reading: Two Failures In One Day - Missile Defense Is An Embarrassment - It Won't Work
Posted by b at 12:36 PM | Comments (108)
http://www.fyjs.cn/thread-1899436-1-1.html
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