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Az elmúlt időszak tapasztalatai alapján házirendet kapott a topic.
Ezen témában - a fórumon rendhagyó módon - az oldal üzemeltetője saját álláspontja, meggyőződése alapján nem enged bizonyos véleményeket, mivel meglátása szerint az káros a járványhelyzet enyhítését célzó törekvésekre.
Kérünk, hogy a vírus veszélyességét kétségbe vonó, oltásellenes véleményed más platformon fejtsd ki. Nálunk ennek nincs helye. Az ilyen hozzászólásokért 1 alkalommal figyelmeztetés jár, majd folytatása esetén a témáról letiltás. Arra is kérünk, hogy a fórum más témáiba ne vigyétek át, mert azért viszont már a fórum egészéről letiltás járhat hosszabb-rövidebb időre.
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Az elmúlt időszak tapasztalatai alapján frissített házirendet kapott a topic.
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Ami nem a topik témájába vág vagy akár csak erősebb hangnemben is kerül megfogalmazásra, az valamilyen formában szankcionálva lesz
Minden olyan hozzászólásért ami nem hír, vagy szorosan a konfliktushoz kapcsolódó vélemény / elemzés azért instant 3 nap topic letiltás jár. Aki pedig ezzel trükközne és folytatná másik topicban annak 2 hónap fórum ban a jussa.
Jo esetben 12-13 millioan vannak, a tobbi mar reges-regen lelepett. A romanok nyiltan hozzaszamolnak kulfoldon elo milliokat, hiaba nem elnek mar regen otthon. Tipikus gatlastalanul hazudozo roman tempo.
new acquisitions announced:
- Switchblade 300 and 600 kamikaze drones
- ATACAMS missiles
- GBU-39/B SDB, AMRAAMs for F-16s
- lase guided bombs for Watchkeeper drones
- Javelins
- Mistral AA missiles
- F-35 contract to be signed and first squadron to be received in 2030
- was already mentioned here 3 x K9 battalions and 1 x Abrams battalion
A beszerzendő mennyiségből egyértelmű, hogy nem az oroszok, hanem a magyarok ellen fegyverkeznek.
"Romania should forward a Letter of Request for Letter of Agreement to the Pentagon for the 6.5 billion USD contract for 32 F-35 new generation fighter jets and logistical support.
231 MANPADs (MAN Portable Air Defense) and Mistral-3 missiles (SHORAD - Short Range Air Defense) worth 662 million EURs
60 AIM-9X "Sidewinder" short-range air-to-air missiles used by aircraft such as the F-16 worth 40 million USD
66 AIM-120 AMRAAM Beyond-visual-range air-to-air missiles/surface-to-air missiles also compatible with the F-16 worth 150 million USD
400 GBU-39B/SDB glide bombs, compatible with the F-16 worth 60 million USD
Laser-guided missiles for the Watchkeeper X UAVs
25 SwitchBlade 300 loitering munitions (suicide/kamikaze) drones worth 176 million Romanian lei (RON)
More SwitchBlade 600 loitering munitions (suicide/kamikaze) drones
33 FGM-148 "Javelin" anti-tank missile worth 66 million USD
Unspecified number of ATACMS missiles for the HIMARS system worth 82.8 million USD
Other acquisitions which will be finalised (https://monitorulapararii.ro/planur...entru-suma-de-300-de-milioane-de-euro-1-55089) in the coming years are:
218 units of sapping equipment, of various kinds, with a budget of 17.5 billion RON
3 unspecified CRAM (Counter Rocket, Artillery and Missile) Systems designed to detect and destroy, or deflect incoming enemy projectiles with a 2.5 billion RON budget
Mobile electronic warfare system with a 4.7 billion RON budget
Two SBAMD-TC anti-missile and aircraft command centers with a 730 million RON budget
Modernisation (or acquisition?) of 19 Gap-Filler radars (Detection & Search radars) with a 1.8 billion RON budget
12 passive radars for airspace surveillance with a 441 million RON budget
Two Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPV) worth 300 million EURs for the Romanian Navy
17 Command, Control, Communications, Computers and Intelligence (C4I) systems, 4 such systems for 4 brigades and 13 others for 13 battalions worth 1.5 billion RON"
https://t.me/Wallachian_Gazette/6380
Szerintem meg ennyit bír a költségvetésük, ha többet bírna többet vennének. Ők is örülnek, ha lyuk van a seggükön és szelel.
A fő céljuk egyébként is az egyesülés Moldovával, az ahhoz szükséges erőt próbálják összerántani, de kurva nehezen megy nekik. Mert a fiatalok többsége húz el nyugatra és már haza térni se nagyon akar, nemhogy katonáskodni (nálunk is ez van sajna csak ott más a lépték).
a beszerzendő mennyiségből kiderül hogy q-va drágák ezek asz eszközök.
Erősen kérdéses hogy tényleg ki is tudják majd fizetni ezt a bevásárló listát. Ember meg nekik sem lesz rá...
Röhejes ez a "román rettegés"!
A beszerzendő mennyiségből....Ezt meg honnét veszed?!?
the remarks about quantities are funny 
for example, for Javelins, this isn't the first batch; in 2023 we bought 26 launchers and 263 missiles:
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now 33 more launchers
air missiles we already had in stocks, these are the last variants.
ATACAMS will probably be around 60, not a small number.
400 GBU-39B/SDB glide bombs could mean 200 bombing sorties
and the number of MANPADS kind of cover all land forces necessity.
These are not small numbers.
for example, for Javelins, this isn't the first batch; in 2023 we bought 26 launchers and 263 missiles:
România cumpără sisteme antitanc Javelin. Pentru câte rachete și lansatoare a dat undă verde SUA - HotNews.ro
SUA au aprobat vânzarea către România a celebrelor sisteme de rachete ghidate antitanc Javelin, devenite cunoscute mai ales pe parcursul războiului din
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air missiles we already had in stocks, these are the last variants.
ATACAMS will probably be around 60, not a small number.
400 GBU-39B/SDB glide bombs could mean 200 bombing sorties
and the number of MANPADS kind of cover all land forces necessity.
These are not small numbers.
However, my friend, for a country the size of Romania, these are ridiculous quantities. Especially if the USA tells you to give it to the Hohols and you immediately, like a servant, hand it over, as was the case with the PATRIOT battery, and we could list for a long time what you have already given to the ukrainians (but let's keep this a secret, don't hurt each other security interests). If you donate your weapons and ammunition to the ukrainians in such a quantity, the warehouses will slowly be empty. When Trump will be the president, your wet dreams becomes nothing because the US won't give you anything back instead of your donation, not even scrap metal.the remarks about quantities are funny
for example, for Javelins, this isn't the first batch; in 2023 we bought 26 launchers and 263 missiles:
now 33 more launchersRomânia cumpără sisteme antitanc Javelin. Pentru câte rachete și lansatoare a dat undă verde SUA - HotNews.ro
SUA au aprobat vânzarea către România a celebrelor sisteme de rachete ghidate antitanc Javelin, devenite cunoscute mai ales pe parcursul războiului din
air missiles we already had in stocks, these are the last variants.
ATACAMS will probably be around 60, not a small number.
400 GBU-39B/SDB glide bombs could mean 200 bombing sorties
and the number of MANPADS kind of cover all land forces necessity.
These are not small numbers.
If you'd know how things really work you wouldn't consider small numbers. there are almost 400 Javelins (and few thousands Spike in depots), that's more than your armored park will have in 5 years it's not like in computer games, shooting frantically everything you have and then you find something on the floor
We donated a battery, from 7.
Other countries donated as well Patriot batteries or something else, see here:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-air-defenses-by-us-president-joseph-r-biden- dutch-prime-minister-dick-schoof-german-chancellor-olaf-scholz-italian-prime-minister-giorgia-melon/
It is a joint allied effort, not a servant decision. This is what allies tend to do, work together to achieve their goals, in this case making Russia lose as much as possible.
As for Trump, just roll back to the news from his first mandate, that's when we signed for some contracts like Patriot and Himars and received loans for developing nuclear energy.
Also not sure what you mean by wet dreams. It's just a battery, we'll have 6 instead of 7, in the worst case scenario.
it's not like in computer games, shooting frantically everything you have and then you find something on the floorWe donated a battery, from 7.
Other countries donated as well Patriot batteries or something else, see here:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-air-defenses-by-us-president-joseph-r-biden- dutch-prime-minister-dick-schoof-german-chancellor-olaf-scholz-italian-prime-minister-giorgia-melon/
It is a joint allied effort, not a servant decision. This is what allies tend to do, work together to achieve their goals, in this case making Russia lose as much as possible.
As for Trump, just roll back to the news from his first mandate, that's when we signed for some contracts like Patriot and Himars and received loans for developing nuclear energy.
Also not sure what you mean by wet dreams. It's just a battery, we'll have 6 instead of 7, in the worst case scenario.
A három K9 zászlóalj az a bejelentett 54 db K9-et jelenti vagy várható még további 2x 54 db vásárlása?
Elvileg 3x18 felosztás úgy tudom a himars is ilyen felosztásban van náluk
"If you'd know how things really work you wouldn't consider small numbers. there are almost 400 Javelins (and few thousands Spike in depots), that's more than your armored park will have in 5 yearsIf you'd know how things really work you wouldn't consider small numbers. there are almost 400 Javelins (and few thousands Spike in depots), that's more than your armored park will have in 5 years
We donated a battery, from 7.
Other countries donated as well Patriot batteries or something else, see here:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-air-defenses-by-us-president-joseph-r-biden- dutch-prime-minister-dick-schoof-german-chancellor-olaf-scholz-italian-prime-minister-giorgia-melon/
It is a joint allied effort, not a servant decision. This is what allies tend to do, work together to achieve their goals, in this case making Russia lose as much as possible.
As for Trump, just roll back to the news from his first mandate, that's when we signed for some contracts like Patriot and Himars and received loans for developing nuclear energy.
Also not sure what you mean by wet dreams. It's just a battery, we'll have 6 instead of 7, in the worst case scenario.
it's not like in computer games, shooting frantically everything you have and then you find something on the floor"- If you were aware of the actual quantities in the units' warehouses, you would be shocked, especially regarding the Spike missiles (the days when there were 2000 of them are long gone). Keep the Javelin missiles against the Russians, you might need them when you went on a trip to Moldova. We also have plenty of Spike, Metis-M, Carl Gustav M4 and soon a lot of RGW-110 if your forces would like to campaign here, now the Hungarian army will waiting for the atackers (in 1919 when the Hungarian Army was bloodied in World War I your army with other antant forces came here as a corpse robbers). Now we won't make this mistake, we won't allow ourselves to be dragged into someone else's war, but good luck to you on the Ukrainian front, if you want to go just do it!
"We donated a battery, from 7."
-You don't need to lie to me (I know this is a popular custom in Romania as the stealing, they are part of your traditions). So, you gave one of the 4 PATRIOT batteries to ukraina, there are 2 batteries in service (without shift staff), one battery is not filled with personnel. So, 2 of the 3 PATRIOT batteries can be used in a limited way (the question of the existing missiles is not for this open forum). The delivery of the missing 3 PATRIOT batteries is very uncertain in the current situation, if you do get them once, it will be many years late.
"Other countries donated as well Patriot batteries or something else, see here"
- Everyone gives what they want, we Hungarians don't have any extra weapons to hand out to others, but we also give plenty of humanitarian aid, fuel and electricity as support to Ukraine.
"It is a joint allied effort, not a servant decision. This is what allies tend to do, work together to achieve their goals, in this case making Russia lose as much as possible."
- We see it differently. Russia will have a brutal army trained in combat. The West (mainly the EU) will be financially crippled by this excessive support. A small part of Ukraine may remain as a buffer zone (among the poorest countries in the world), if they make peace with the Russians in time, other ceases they won't be exist.
"As for Trump, just roll back to the news from his first mandate, that's when we signed for some contracts like Patriot and Himars and received loans for developing nuclear energy."
- For a lot of money, you naturally buy what you want. But as a free gift, because you previously gave your weapons to the Ukrainians, you will not receive anything in return.
"Also not sure what you mean by wet dreams. It's just a battery, we'll have 6 instead of 7, in the worst case scenario."
-I already wrote about the remaining 3 PATRIOT batteries, I think you can forget about the other three for a long time. I think 3 PATRIOT batteries with the few still existing KUB, OSA, HAWK are not enough for Romania's air defenses (we will leave the pharmacy-sized MANPADS systems for now). /The USA owns the Deveselu AEGIS base, it's not in rumanian hands./
So I think it is unnecessary for Romania to dream about how grateful the USA or the West will be for your generously donate to Ukraine. The West only cares about money and profit, they will keep Ukraine alive as long as their economic interests require it. After that, they will let them down just as quickly as happend with their puppet states in Vietnam or Afghanistan.
you seem to have missed some Spike batches, obviously I was not talking about the ones taken in the 2000s.
it's good that the Hungarian army also has AT missiles, even if some are older.
About Patriot, the second one will be fully operational this year, the 3rd will follow, the other 3 will come as well because from the beginning the contract was in 2 groups and not all systems at the same time; for comparison the Polish army also has 2 batteries operational now, I say we are doing pretty well, others don't have Patriot at all and I don't think they will ever get it as long as they are politically a problem for NATO.
about what Romania will get in exchange for the system already agreed, you will find out in the next period.
I don't know if you have noticed but NASAMS will not be offered in the Romanian V/SHORAD competition and also withdrew from the Swiss one, US is in the process of rebuilding and increasing its stockpiles (including for Ukraine) and hence the delays and the need to donate systems from other European countries. It wouldn't have been right to ask for example from Hungary the only NASAMS system, we have more, so we allowed ourselves to help a neighbor in the fight against the existential enemy of Eastern Europe.
We are not counting on HAWK, OSA or KUB in the future so it's just as well that they will end up somewhere where they can be used and have a utility.
About Trump, I tried to point out that during his first term he had a special interest in Romania, the loan I was talking about is one with a very good interest rate and it also ensures technology transfer to Romania, anyway we are better off than you with Parks because the SMR project is also being realized.
In conclusion, we don't "dream" of unimaginable things that the Americans will give us for Patriot or other similar fantasies. The wet dreams are actually with you. On this topic I had the patience to read carefully almost everything on Bitzpol [Romania] and this one and I see that there is only talk about how the Russians will come and give Transylvania to the Hungarians where the Romanians will be allowed to survive there too and be put to work.
I thought these ideas belonged to the last century, that today there is not much difference and you can visit, settle or do business in the neighboring country and centuries of misunderstandings will be forgotten. It seems that I am too optimistic. But don't forget Matthew 26:52-56
it's good that the Hungarian army also has AT missiles, even if some are older.
About Patriot, the second one will be fully operational this year, the 3rd will follow, the other 3 will come as well because from the beginning the contract was in 2 groups and not all systems at the same time; for comparison the Polish army also has 2 batteries operational now, I say we are doing pretty well, others don't have Patriot at all and I don't think they will ever get it as long as they are politically a problem for NATO.
about what Romania will get in exchange for the system already agreed, you will find out in the next period.
I don't know if you have noticed but NASAMS will not be offered in the Romanian V/SHORAD competition and also withdrew from the Swiss one, US is in the process of rebuilding and increasing its stockpiles (including for Ukraine) and hence the delays and the need to donate systems from other European countries. It wouldn't have been right to ask for example from Hungary the only NASAMS system, we have more, so we allowed ourselves to help a neighbor in the fight against the existential enemy of Eastern Europe.
We are not counting on HAWK, OSA or KUB in the future so it's just as well that they will end up somewhere where they can be used and have a utility.
About Trump, I tried to point out that during his first term he had a special interest in Romania, the loan I was talking about is one with a very good interest rate and it also ensures technology transfer to Romania, anyway we are better off than you with Parks because the SMR project is also being realized.
In conclusion, we don't "dream" of unimaginable things that the Americans will give us for Patriot or other similar fantasies. The wet dreams are actually with you. On this topic I had the patience to read carefully almost everything on Bitzpol [Romania] and this one and I see that there is only talk about how the Russians will come and give Transylvania to the Hungarians where the Romanians will be allowed to survive there too and be put to work.
I thought these ideas belonged to the last century, that today there is not much difference and you can visit, settle or do business in the neighboring country and centuries of misunderstandings will be forgotten. It seems that I am too optimistic. But don't forget Matthew 26:52-56
The amount you have used so far and the amount you have ordered shows that the existing number of your SPIKEs are just over 1,000 (and most of them will expire within a few years. Regarding the NASAMS-3 batteries we have, I see that you're on completely blindness (fortunately, our soldiers keep their mouths shut).
I did not write a single word about Transylvania. The great majority in Hungary currently have no intention of dealing with this topic. Why would we waste our time with such things, when everyone is more busy with their prosperity. It seems to me that there is much more concern for Transylvania in the rumanianmilitary comment section than here. This still indicates to me that a lot of people in Romania are still afraid by the fact that the stolen things have to be returned.
I think that if people in a country are living well, regardless of their nationality, then it is unnecessary to deal with such things from the past. In Romania, this topic always comes up more prominently when there are problems in the economy, then hatred grows against nationalities (mainly Hungarians) can arise.
So I suggest you go back to writing on romaniamilitary if you have too much free time. May there finally be peace and may the cooperation between the two countries strengthen! Let Romania finally be a part of the Schengen area by land and we can move freely between symbolic borders. I wish you good health and a nice summer!
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2026-tól kezdik szállítani rumánia részére az 54 darab M1A2 sep v3 harckocsit, amelyek a TR-85M1-eseket fogják váltani a 284. harckocsi zászlóalján Galac-ban (rumán/Moldáv/Ukrán határ találkozásánál).
A TR-85M1-esek a jelenlegi tervek szerint (modernizálva) a 912-es zászlóaljhoz mennek Murfatlarba (Kostanca közelében a Bukarestbe vezető útvonal mentén). A Bákói 634-es TR-85 harckocsijai modernizálásra kerülnénk TR-85 (M2?), vagy sikeres megrendelés esetén, koreai K2-ket kapnának. Az összes T-55 kivonásra kerül, így továbbra is kérdéses, hogy a Tordai 814-esek és a Targuvistében települő 114-esek milyen harckocsit kapnak (nincs elegendő modernizálható TR-85 a két zászlóaljnak) . Bár rumán hivatolos források szerint van (de valójában olyan TR-85 anyag van, aminek az állapota inkább teljes újjáépítést, nem modernizációt kíván).
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A TR-85M1-esek a jelenlegi tervek szerint (modernizálva) a 912-es zászlóaljhoz mennek Murfatlarba (Kostanca közelében a Bukarestbe vezető útvonal mentén). A Bákói 634-es TR-85 harckocsijai modernizálásra kerülnénk TR-85 (M2?), vagy sikeres megrendelés esetén, koreai K2-ket kapnának. Az összes T-55 kivonásra kerül, így továbbra is kérdéses, hogy a Tordai 814-esek és a Targuvistében települő 114-esek milyen harckocsit kapnak (nincs elegendő modernizálható TR-85 a két zászlóaljnak) . Bár rumán hivatolos források szerint van (de valójában olyan TR-85 anyag van, aminek az állapota inkább teljes újjáépítést, nem modernizációt kíván).
România, aproape de momentul Abrams. Modernele tancuri americane vor fi dislocate în estul României. Achiziția următorului lot de tancuri ar putea începe în 2025
Coloana vertebrală a Forțelor terestre ale Armatei României o reprezintă tancurile TR-85 și versiunea sa modernizată, Bizonul, precum și bătrânul tanc T-55.
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