Mire nem jó a duct tape.Ha tök felesleges követ rakni a barátod zsákjába akkor mást kell kitalálni...
A kep jo es vicces. /de elszomorito kicsit hogy azert itt is van osszevisszasag. Minden homokszinu hkn van valami zold de majd mindegyiken mas./Ha tök felesleges követ rakni a barátod zsákjába akkor mást kell kitalálni...
Inkább az az elszomorító, hogy hülyék. Sanszosan meg akartak fordulni 180 fokban, de mi a picsáért nem gurultak le a kereszteződésig, ahol lett volna helyük is, meg nem a domboldalon kell lavírozni?
Jogos, meg se néztem jobban, csak öböháború és kész volt a szempont. Persze, az angolok is ott voltak!
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Turret Weight
M1A1 : 23.1 tons (21 metric tons)
M1A2 : 26.9 tons (24.4 metric tons)
M1A2 SEPv3 : 31.5 tons (28.6 metric tons)
For reference, other turret weights:
105 mm M1 -> 19,1 metric tons.
Arjun Mk1 -> 17,5 metric tons
Leclerc S1 -> 18,5 metric tons
M1A1 : 23.1 tons (21 metric tons)
M1A2 : 26.9 tons (24.4 metric tons)
M1A2 SEPv3 : 31.5 tons (28.6 metric tons)
For reference, other turret weights:
105 mm M1 -> 19,1 metric tons.
Arjun Mk1 -> 17,5 metric tons
Leclerc S1 -> 18,5 metric tons
Na ezért tudják az oroszok 55 tonna körül tartani az Armata tömegét.
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WASHINGTON, April 29, 2021
The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Australia of Heavy Armored Combat Systems and related equipment for an estimated cost of $1.685 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Australia has requested to buy one hundred sixty (160) M1A1 Tank structures/hulls provided from stock in order to produce the following end items and spares: seventy-five (75) M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams Main Battle Tanks; twenty-nine (29) M1150 Assault Breacher Vehicles; eighteen (18) M1074 Joint Assault Bridges; six (6) M88A2 Hercules Combat Recovery Vehicles; and one hundred twenty-two (122) AGT1500 gas turbine engines.
Also included is development of a unique armor package, Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station Low Profile (CROWS-LP), Driver’s Vision Enhancer, mission equipment, special tools and test equipment, ground support equipment, system and engine spare parts, technical data, publications, Modification Work Orders/Engineering Change Proposals (MWO/ECPs), U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics assistance, quality assurance teams, transportation services, program management, New Equipment Training (NET); and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated value is $1.685 billion.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States. Australia is one of our most important allies in the Western Pacific. The strategic location of this political and economic power contributes significantly to ensuring peace and economic stability in the region. It is vital to the U.S. national interest to assist our ally in developing and maintaining a strong and ready self-defense capability.
The proposed sale improves Australia’s capability to meet current and future threats by enhancing the lethality, survivability, and interoperability of the Australian Army. Australia will use the enhanced capability to strengthen its homeland defense and deter regional threats. The M1A2 SEPv3 Main Battle Tanks will upgrade the current Australian fleet of M1A1 SA tanks with no changes to Royal Australian Armoured Corps force structure. Additional M88A2 vehicles provide de-processing and combat vehicle recovery support for the Australian tank fleet. The M1150 Assault Breacher Vehicles (ABVs) and M1074 Joint Assault Bridges (JABs) will be a new capability for the Royal Australian Engineers, bringing under-armor bridging and breaching capability, increasing the effectiveness and survivability of Australian Combat Engineers and providing increased mobility for the armored fleet. Australia will have no difficulty absorbing this equipment into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractors will be General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, MI; BAE Systems, York, PA; Leonardo DRS, Arlington, VA; and Honeywell Aerospace, Phoenix, AZ. The purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor(s).
Implementation of this sale will require the assignment of approximately 10 additional U.S. or contractor representatives to Australia.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded.
The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Australia of Heavy Armored Combat Systems and related equipment for an estimated cost of $1.685 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Australia has requested to buy one hundred sixty (160) M1A1 Tank structures/hulls provided from stock in order to produce the following end items and spares: seventy-five (75) M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams Main Battle Tanks; twenty-nine (29) M1150 Assault Breacher Vehicles; eighteen (18) M1074 Joint Assault Bridges; six (6) M88A2 Hercules Combat Recovery Vehicles; and one hundred twenty-two (122) AGT1500 gas turbine engines.
Also included is development of a unique armor package, Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station Low Profile (CROWS-LP), Driver’s Vision Enhancer, mission equipment, special tools and test equipment, ground support equipment, system and engine spare parts, technical data, publications, Modification Work Orders/Engineering Change Proposals (MWO/ECPs), U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics assistance, quality assurance teams, transportation services, program management, New Equipment Training (NET); and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated value is $1.685 billion.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States. Australia is one of our most important allies in the Western Pacific. The strategic location of this political and economic power contributes significantly to ensuring peace and economic stability in the region. It is vital to the U.S. national interest to assist our ally in developing and maintaining a strong and ready self-defense capability.
The proposed sale improves Australia’s capability to meet current and future threats by enhancing the lethality, survivability, and interoperability of the Australian Army. Australia will use the enhanced capability to strengthen its homeland defense and deter regional threats. The M1A2 SEPv3 Main Battle Tanks will upgrade the current Australian fleet of M1A1 SA tanks with no changes to Royal Australian Armoured Corps force structure. Additional M88A2 vehicles provide de-processing and combat vehicle recovery support for the Australian tank fleet. The M1150 Assault Breacher Vehicles (ABVs) and M1074 Joint Assault Bridges (JABs) will be a new capability for the Royal Australian Engineers, bringing under-armor bridging and breaching capability, increasing the effectiveness and survivability of Australian Combat Engineers and providing increased mobility for the armored fleet. Australia will have no difficulty absorbing this equipment into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The principal contractors will be General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, MI; BAE Systems, York, PA; Leonardo DRS, Arlington, VA; and Honeywell Aerospace, Phoenix, AZ. The purchaser typically requests offsets. Any offset agreement will be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor(s).
Implementation of this sale will require the assignment of approximately 10 additional U.S. or contractor representatives to Australia.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded.
Ez egy olyan komplett csomag mint a magyar beszerzés 1,8 milliárd Euróért, csak ezek nem újak, hanem használt felújított M1A1-en alapuló járművek lesznek?
én úgy értelmezem hogy igen, bár érdekes hogy 160db alapot vesznek, abból kialakításra 128 fog kerülni és ehhez vesznek 122db AGT1500-as turbinát
Nem is értem, Ausztrália egy hatalmas ország. Ráadásul a britt államközösség része. Önállóan is ki tudna fejleszteni bármit. Ehhez képest az angolokhoz hasonlóan USA seggében van. Pedig ha BK, Ausztrália, Kanada, Újzéland összefogna simán kenterbe vernék az USA-t. BK eddig is saját maga fejlesztette a fegyverzetét miért nem azt a vonalat követik. Miért nem fognak össze. Igaz a Britt-birodalom vagy 100 éve megszünt, de a szellemiség az anyanyelv és a kultúra tovább él. Miért kell becsicskulni az USA-nak minden téren...szánalmas.
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Ausztrália meg az USA azért sok vonatkozásban közelebb áll egymáshoz, mint a szigetországi britekhez. Persze nemzetközösség meg egyebek, de ugyanakkor Ausztrália szintén hatalmas mint az USA, emiatt hasonló elvek mentén szerveződik a gazdasága, közlekedési infrastruktúrája-kultúrája. Maga az alap kultúrális elem a vadnyugatias ősöktől származott, a bennszülöttekre ült fehér ember. Ugyanúgy írtották is persze, ugyanúgy szét is akarták barmolni az abókat, fehér kultúrájúvá formálva mint az indiánokat, etc, etc. Végső soron Ausztrália egy másik USA, párhuzamosan ugyanazon a nyelven ugyanazt a pályát bejárva. Összepacsizva elég komoly erőt képviselnek és ebben gyakorlatilag nincsen semmilyen gát, mert a tájszólástól eltekintve igen egyformák.
Minek fejlesztenének egy n+1 -ik harckocsit. Bizonytalan hogy mikorra készül el, mennyibe kerül, Stb. Megvesznek egy kész gépet és fix költséggel rövid határidővel van harckocsijuk.
Fizikailag nagy kiterjedésű, kontinensnyi ország, 25,3 millió fős lakossággal, ami kevesebb, mint Lengyelországé.
Nincs kifinomult gépészeti ipari kultúrájuk, műszaki kutatás-fejlesztési központjuk is eléggé réteges. Vannak érdekes kutatás-fejlesztéseik, de foghíjas a nehéziparuk, nem arra van beállva, hogy komplex haditechnikát fejlesszen ki.
A kurrens haditechnikai fejlesztéshez elengedhetetlen önállóság és saját, magas hozzáadott értékű technológia feletti teljes kontrol hiányzik náluk.