Lengyel haderőfejlesztési program (2032) és hadiipar

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aszta de durva. jól meg van ám pakolva

Azért érdekelne, hogy egy filléres árú ikercsövessel megsorozva (23mm-..) mi maradna a "high-tech karácsonyfa-díszekből", hogy mennyire maradna harcképes egy nyugati gép a valós háborús viszonyok között.

Láttunk videót, arról, hogy városi harcban egy 30mm-essel felszerelt (ukrán)BTR-4 is zavarba tudott hozni T-72-vel is mixelt --kisebb-- harc-csoportot.

Vak/süket csiga-biga sebességű nyugati hk-k vajon lesznek-e, vagy az ukránok --"önkéntesek" ??? :oops: -- is azt a parancsot kapják, hogy a nyugati technikát nem használni kell, hanem vigyázni rá??? :oops:

Ez szokott lenni a Politikus elvárása --a történelemkönyvek példáiból tanulva--, mikor a kevés, de "cserébe" jó-drága fegyvert nem harcolni veszi, hanem "valami-másért" ... :mad:

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"WASHINGTON, February 7, 2023

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Poland of M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) launchers and related equipment for an estimated cost of $10 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Republic of Poland has requested to buy

  • eighteen (18) M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) launchers;
  • four hundred sixty-eight (468) HIMARS Launcher Loader Module kits;
  • forty-five (45) M57 Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS);
  • four hundred sixty-one (461) M30A2 Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System Alternative Warhead (GMLRS-AW) pods with Insensitive Munitions Propulsion System (IMPS);
  • five hundred twenty-one (521) M31A2 Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System Unitary (GMLRS-U) pods with Insensitive Munitions Propulsion System (IMPS); five hundred thirty-two (532) XM403 Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System Extended Range Alternative Warhead (GMLRS-ER AW) pods.
Also included are Low Cost Reduced Range Practice Rockets; support equipment; communications equipment; spare and repair parts; test sets; batteries; laptop computers; publications and technical data; facility design; personnel training and equipment; systems integration support; Quality Assurance Teams and a Technical Assistance Fielding Team; United States Government and contractor engineering and logistics personnel services; training; sensors; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated cost is $10 billion.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy goals and national security objectives of the United States by improving the security of a NATO Ally that is a force for political stability and economic progress in Europe.

The proposed sale will improve Poland’s military goals of updating capability while further enhancing interoperability with the United States and other allies. Poland intends to use these defense articles and services to modernize its armed forces and expand its capability to strengthen its homeland defense and deter regional threats. Poland will have no difficulty absorbing this equipment into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractor will be Lockheed Martin, Grand Prairie, TX. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale. Any future offset agreement would be defined in negotiations between the purchaser and the contractor(s).

Implementation of this proposed sale will require U.S. Government or contractor representatives to travel to Poland for program management reviews to support the program. Travel is expected to occur approximately twice per year as needed to support equipment fielding and training.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded."
 
ez a Laucher Loader Module kit igazából annyi hogy a saját vasukra rakják fel, nem az ami gépezetre, pontosabban ez teszi lehetővé
18+468=486 indítójuk lesz , ehhez még hozzáadjuk a dél-koreai vasat is... jól nyomják
Nem egészen: ennyire kaptak export engedélyt, de most hogy vettek koreai cuccot, nem valszínű, hogy mindet "lehívják". A Laucher Loader Module is tetű lassan gyártódik le...
 
Nem egészen: ennyire kaptak export engedélyt, de most hogy vettek koreai cuccot, nem valszínű, hogy mindet "lehívják". A Laucher Loader Module is tetű lassan gyártódik le...
igen ez jogos , rosszul fogalmaztam, ez a gyártási "limit", de ha mindet lehívják azzzz, az brutális. de ha csak a felét, akkor is az
 
Lengyel katonai források alapján a lengyelek akár le is mondhatnának a K2PL-rol az Ambramsok javára:

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Lengyel katonai források alapján a lengyelek akár le is mondhatnának a K2PL-rol az Ambramsok javára:

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Ezt mennyire tehetnék meg a koreaiakkal?
 
A lengyelek majdnem két milliard zlotyt készulnek beléfektetni a hadiiparjukba:

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Lengyel katonai források alapján a lengyelek akár le is mondhatnának a K2PL-rol az Ambramsok javára:

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Ha majd az Abramsok feluton lesznek, johet ujra a Leo! :hadonaszos: :D