M270 MLRS / MARS II / MLRS-E / LRU / MLRS Improved (USA)

[PavolR]

Balti államok kozos beszerzést terveznek:

Védelmi miniszter: Tervek vannak a potenciális pán-balti MLRS beszerzésre​

https://news.err.ee/1608223984/defe...ace-for-potential-pan-baltic-mlrs-procurement

 

[kamm]

Balti államok kozos beszerzést terveznek:

Védelmi miniszter: Tervek vannak a potenciális pán-balti MLRS beszerzésre​

https://news.err.ee/1608223984/defe...ace-for-potential-pan-baltic-mlrs-procurement

Hat, ez megint amerikai bevetel lesz, mar lathato.

 

[MZ/X]

Test bezzałogowej wyrzutni AML systemu GMLRS/PrSM

16 czerwca na poligonie w Fort Sill w stanie Oklahoma Wojska Lądowe Stanów Zjednoczonych Ameryki Północnej przeprowadziły test autonomicznej

zbiam.pl

 

[Törölt tag 1586]

Észteknél már eldőlt milyen rakéta tüzérségük lesz...

Estonian army should receive six M270A1 MLRS by 2024

"...The Estonian Ministry of Defense said on December 13 that the Estonian Defense Forces structure will be complemented with an MLRS unit sporting a regional range of fire: "I hope the EDF can take delivery of these weapons in 2024, with Latvia and Lithuania prepared to procure these things a year later," Herem said...
The EDF commander said Estonia is planning to acquire six long-range rocket artillery systems..."

 

[vasszekely]

A litvánok felgyorsítják a MLRS beszerzést.

Litwa przyspiesza zakup artylerii rakietowej

Litewskie władze zdecydowały o przyspieszeniu zakupu systemu artylerii rakietowej MLRS. Ma on pojawić się w tamtejszej armii do 2026, a nie do 2028 roku, jak pierwotnie planowano

defence24.pl

 

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WASHINGTON, February 8, 2022

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Jordan of Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) Alternate Warhead (AW) Unitary Rocket Pods and related equipment for an estimated cost of $70 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Jordan has requested to buy one hundred fourteen (114) Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) Unitary High Explosive (HE) Tri-Mode Fuze (GMLRS-U) (M31) Rockets; and one hundred fourteen (114) Reduced Range Practice Rockets (RRPR).

Also included is support equipment; publications and technical data; personnel training and equipment; systems integration support; U.S. Government and contractor engineering technical and logistics support services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated total cost is $70 million.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a Major Non-NATO Ally that is an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East.

The proposed sale will improve Jordan’s capability to meet current and future threats on its borders and provide greater security for its economic infrastructure. This sale will provide Jordan with a long-range precision artillery support capability that will significantly improve U.S.-Jordan interoperability and provide for the defense of vital installations. Jordan will have no difficulty absorbing these additional systems into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractor will be Lockheed Martin Missile and Fire Control, Dallas, TX. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Jordan.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded.

 

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"WASHINGTON, February 17, 2021

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Finland of Extended Range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems and related equipment for an estimated cost of $91.2 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Finland has requested to buy twenty-five (25) M30A2 Extended Range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems – Alternative Warhead (ER GMLRS-AW) Pods; and ten (10) M31A2 Extended Range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems – Unitary (ER GMLRS-U) Pods. Also included is an ER GMLRS Materiel Release Package; Stockpile Reliability Program (SRP) support; Quality Assurance Testing (QAT) services; technical publications; U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics support services; and other related element of program and logistics support. The total estimated cost is $91.2 million.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by improving the security of a trusted partner which is an important force for political stability and economic progress in Europe. It is vital to the U.S. national interest to assist Finland in developing and maintaining a strong and ready self-defense capability.

Finland intends to use these defense articles and services to modernize its armed forces. Finland intends to expand its existing army architecture to counter potential threats. This will contribute to the Finland military’s goal to upgrade its capability while enhancing interoperability between Finland, the United States, and other partners. Finland will have no difficulty absorbing these missiles into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractor will be Lockheed Martin Corporation, Missile and Fire Control, Grand Prairie, TX. There are no known offsets associated with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Finland.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded."

Finland approves the procurement of US Guided Rockets for M270 227mm rocket launcher systems

"The procurement from the United States will provide the Defence Forces with Extended Range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System Alternative Warheads (ER GMLRS AW) for area targets and Extended Range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System Unitary (ER GMLRS UNITARY) ammunition for point target effect.

The new munitions will significantly improve the performance of heavy rocket launchers and extend their range. The effectiveness of the ER GMLRS AW and UNITARY munitions corresponds to the GMLRS AW and UNITARY procured by the Defence Forces in 2016. The procurement is part of a plan to ensure the usability and performance of heavy rocket launchers into the 2050's.

The procurement’s overall value is about EUR 70 million and the funding is included in the defence spending. The ammunition manufacturer in the United States is Lockheed Martin.

Procurement deliveries are estimated to start in 2025."

 

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WASHINGTON, March 24, 2022

Bahrain – M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS) Upgrade

"The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Bahrain of M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS) Upgrade and related equipment for an estimated cost of $175.98 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of Bahrain has requested to buy upgrades to nine (9) M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS) to a M270 A1 minimum configuration. The upgrade will include: the Common Fire Control System (CFCS); Improved Launcher Mechanical System (ILMS); 600h Engine and associated engine compartment modifications; Improved Electronics Distribution Box (IEDB); fan speed control valve; cables and mounting hardware, Power Take Off (PTO) and BOO series transmission; the Digital Communication Systems (DCOMMS); and Vehicular Intercom System (AN/VIC-3). In addition, the effort will include two (2) years spare parts; Operator and Maintenance Training Course’ Contractor Logistics Support; U.S. Government engineering support; support and test equipment; integration and test support, software delivery and support; publications and technical documentation; technical and logistics support services; storage; and other related elements of logistical and program support. The estimated total cost is $175.98 million.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a Major Non-NATO Ally that is an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East.

The proposed sale will improve Bahrain’s capability to meet current and future threats by enhancing Bahrain’s ability to defend itself against regional malign actors and improve interoperability with systems operated by U.S. forces and other Gulf countries. Bahrain's continued investment in its defensive capabilities is crucial to protecting its borders, energy infrastructure, and its residents, including over 15,000 U.S. citizens and Naval personnel living and working in the country. Bahrain will have no difficulty absorbing these upgraded MLRSs into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

The principal contractor will be the Lockheed Martin Corporation, Bethesda, MD. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Bahrain.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded."

 

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M270A1 and M270A2 MLRS

M270A2 is an upgraded variant of the M270, which featuring Common Fire Control System (CFCS); new 600 hp engine, upgraded transmission and launcher-loader modules; and Improved Armored Cabs (IAC). The A2 upgrades will allow to fire the ER GMLRS rockets.

 

[tacticool]

Legkorábban télen kaphatnak az ukik M270-et a németektől. Már ha lesz még hova küldeni.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1534615136467550209

A németek továbbra is mindent elkövetnek, hogy még véletlenül se kelljen komoly fegyvert átadni...

 

[kamm]

 

[Terminator]

M270A1 and M270A2 MLRS

M270A2 is an upgraded variant of the M270, which featuring Common Fire Control System (CFCS); new 600 hp engine, upgraded transmission and launcher-loader modules; and Improved Armored Cabs (IAC). The A2 upgrades will allow to fire the ER GMLRS rockets.

Az amerikai hadsereg átvette az első, modernizált M270A2 rakéta sorozatvető lánctalpas járműveit...

A még 2017-ben elindított program részeként várhatóan a hadsereg 385, korábbi A1 változatú fegyverrendszerét nagyjavítják és modernizálják, így kitolva hadrafoghatóságuk idejét legalább 2050-ig.

A projekt során nagyobb méretű, páncélozott fülkét, új, erősebb, 600 lóerős teljesítményű motort, a Bradley M2A4 gyalogsági harcjármű hajtásláncának egyes részeit, illetve modern, teljesen digitális tűzvezető rendszert építenek be az M270A2-esbe.

 

[Wilson]

M270 bevetése Ukrajnában....

 

[ghostrider]

Az jó, hogy összehasonlítják a kettő töltését, de még csak kategóriában és időben sem stimmel a kettő. Amikor már régen volt a Grad, akkor még elképzelés szintjén sem volt az M270. Kb. Katona lány szint.

 

[efott1974]

 

[Aladeen]

A britek újabb 3 M270-est küldenek Ukrajnába a korábbi 3 mellé. Ezzel 20 fölé emelkedhet a nyugati rakétatüzérségi rendszerek száma.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3547903-britain-to-send-more-m270-multiple-rocket-launchers-to-ukraine.htm

Más források szerint amióta a HIMARS-ok és M270/MARS II járművek rendszeresen pusztítják az orosz-lőszerraktárakat, az ukránok napi vesztesége a korábbi 100fő/napról 30 fő/napra csökkent.

 

[Kopi2000]

Az jó, hogy összehasonlítják a kettő töltését, de még csak kategóriában és időben sem stimmel a kettő. Amikor már régen volt a Grad, akkor még elképzelés szintjén sem volt az M270. Kb. Katona lány szint.

A problema nem az, legalabbis orosz szempontbol, hogy regen volt a Grad, a manualis toltesevel es az MLRS meg elgondolas szintjen sem volt, hanem az, hogy az oroszoknal maig a Grad es a hozza hasonloan kiszolgalhato sorozatvetok vannak.... Emlekszem, meg a 80-as evekben lattam fenykepet rola egy kommunista brossuraban, mivel is fenyegeti a beketabort az a gaz NATO, de mar akkor szellemesnek tartottam a csokoteg cserevel torteno tolteset a MLRS-nek.... Igazabol azt nem ertem, hogy az oroszok miert nem rukkoltak elo valami hasonloval az elmult 40-45 evben?

 

[Aladeen]

A problema nem az, legalabbis orosz szempontbol, hogy regen volt a Grad, a manualis toltesevel es az MLRS meg elgondolas szintjen sem volt, hanem az, hogy az oroszoknal maig a Grad es a hozza hasonloan kiszolgalhato sorozatvetok vannak.... Emlekszem, meg a 80-as evekben lattam fenykepet rola egy kommunista brossuraban, mivel is fenyegeti a beketabort az a gaz NATO, de mar akkor szellemesnek tartottam a csokoteg cserevel torteno tolteset a MLRS-nek.... Igazabol azt nem ertem, hogy az oroszok miert nem rukkoltak elo valami hasonloval az elmult 40-45 evben?

Mert csórók és ezekből a régi rendszerekből ezer szám örököltek a szovjet időkből - ezt az "örökséget" élik most fel Ukrajnában.
Su-57-est és Armatát sem nagyon látsz Ukrajnában, mert alig készült belőlük pár tucat az elmúlt 10 évben.
Olaszország GDP-je nagyobb mint az oroszoké, pedig van némi méretbeli különbség.

 

[ghostrider]

A problema nem az, legalabbis orosz szempontbol, hogy regen volt a Grad, a manualis toltesevel es az MLRS meg elgondolas szintjen sem volt, hanem az, hogy az oroszoknal maig a Grad es a hozza hasonloan kiszolgalhato sorozatvetok vannak.... Emlekszem, meg a 80-as evekben lattam fenykepet rola egy kommunista brossuraban, mivel is fenyegeti a beketabort az a gaz NATO, de mar akkor szellemesnek tartottam a csokoteg cserevel torteno tolteset a MLRS-nek.... Igazabol azt nem ertem, hogy az oroszok miert nem rukkoltak elo valami hasonloval az elmult 40-45 evben?

Tudod, vannak tervezési elgondolások, amiket alapvetően a követelmények határoznak meg. A Szovjetunióban/Oroszországban nem feltétlenül volt prioritás a töltés félautomatikus megoldása. Ők az egyszerűség, olcsóság oldaláról közelítették meg a dolgokat, ember meg volt hozzá. Lehet olcsón is jót csinálni, meg baromi drágán is.
Visszatérve a fenti problémára. A nagy kaliberű MLRS lövedékeket eleve nem lehet csak kézzel tölteni. Nézd meg Az Uragan, Szmercs töltését.

 

[Kopi2000]

Tudod, vannak tervezési elgondolások, amiket alapvetően a követelmények határoznak meg. A Szovjetunióban/Oroszországban nem feltétlenül volt prioritás a töltés félautomatikus megoldása. Ők az egyszerűség, olcsóság oldaláról közelítették meg a dolgokat, ember meg volt hozzá. Lehet olcsón is jót csinálni, meg baromi drágán is.
Visszatérve a fenti problémára. A nagy kaliberű MLRS lövedékeket eleve nem lehet csak kézzel tölteni. Nézd meg Az Uragan, Szmercs töltését.

Nyilvan tudom, hogyan toltik azokat. Ember az az USA-ban is volt. A lenyeg, hogy a manualis toltes miatt kisebb az eszkoz tulelo kepessege azert, mert a kovetkezo toltes soran kenytelen az eszkoz huzamosabb ideig egy helyben allni.... Persze tudom, hogy az oroszok hasznalnak darut, de megis kezimu ka kell ahhoz, hogy egyesevel megtolthetok legyenek a csovek..