Na megelőztetek. Mind1 azért berakom mit találtam Német légvédelem fejlesztése témában a neten. Ez egy 2018 májusi cikk de nem hiszem sokat minden változott volna azóta.
Ptriotot leváltották MEADS-al. MEADS-ról ezt irja:
"In 2005, Germany (MBDA Deutschland), the United States (Lockheed Martin) and Italy (MBDA Italia) established the MEADS programme to develop a new medium-range air defence system. Eight batteries of the new system were expected to have replaced the Patriot batteries by 2018. The MEADS was to be integrated with Germany’s short-range IRIS-T SL air defence system (range to 40 km, altitude to 20 km) in order to reduce operational costs, since the PAC-3 MSE missiles are quite expensive. In 2011, the US withdrew from MEADS, but the programme continued until a prototype was ready in 2014. Germany chose not to buy the system in isolation but in June 2015 it decided to use the R&D results of the MEADS and IRIS-T SL programmes to build a German medium-range air defence system, the so-called TLVS (Taktisches Luftverteidigungssystem), while making a reservation that the contractor would have to meet certain conditions.[14] For now, Germany is the only state interested in a MEADS based system: France and Italy use the SAMP/T system, and Poland, Sweden and Romania have opted for the Patriot system (in different configurations)."
Ez alapján én nehezen tudok nálunk elképzelni MEADS-ot. Halott a program elvileg.
Kis és közepes képesség az írják teljes újjáépítést igényel.
"The Air Force’s sole air defence missile wing has only one air defence missile group equipped with these kind of systems (see the map). It has four stationary MANTIS systems to protect military bases against RAM threats (rocket, artillery and mortar attacks) and, most probably, one LeFlaSys Ozelot battery (three platoons with Wiesel 2 vehicles equipped with Stinger launchers) to protect mobile forces.[1] In the absence of a successor system, the service life of the LeFlaSys Ozelot system has been extended to 2025 (it was originally due to expire in 2018)."
Szóval nem állnak valami jól. El is döntötték gyorsan hogy kb 20 db a kis és közepes hatótávolságú légvédelmi rendszer vesznek.2018 áprilisában indított a hadsereg 1 programot melyben meghatározták a technikai elvárásokat erre lehet pályázni eredmény hirdetés 2019-ben várható.
"The German-French MBDA Group, which has offered the French Mistral 3 missiles for very short-range air defence (range up to 6 km, altitude to 4.5 km) on wheeled platforms, might be one of the programme’s contractors. MBDA has also suggested integrating into the NNbS programme the IRIS-T SL missiles and launchers made by Diehl Defence for short-range air defence (range to 40 km, altitude to 20 km) on wheeled or tracked platforms. Moreover, MBDA has been developing laser weapon systems, which the German Defence Ministry wishes to integrate into the NNbS programme at a later date.[6] Rheinmetall, too, has offered the Bundeswehr its solutions for the NNbS programme, but without making public any detailed information about the offer.[7]"
Szóval MBDA a Mistral 3-at gurulós platformra integrálva ajánlja rövid hatótávra, közepes hatótávra pedig az IRIS-T SL amit a Diehl gyárt. Picit meglepődtem hogy MBDA próbálja eladni az IRIS-T SL-t mert nekem ez a CAM-ER versenytársának tűnik szóval picit utána néztem ennek:
https://www.mbda-systems.com/2016/05/20/ila-2016-new-systems-for-air-defence-and-guided-missiles/
Ezek szerint fejlesztettek erre is platformot.
Szóval Mistral 3 ebből nekünk már van. Egy részét magunknak "gyártottuk" a meglévő Mistral 2-ből Nyirtelken. Nyilván spekuláció a részemről de most valahogy azt az IRTS-T érzem esélyesnek.
Van a cikkben még 1 érdekes rész.
"Germany has committed to deploying a fully modernised brigade for NATO Very High Readiness Joint Task Force (VJTF) duty in 2023.[8] This means that its mobile troops need air defence protection against drones, low-flying helicopters and aircraft. For this reason, the Germany Army has been developing a smaller project known as ‘qualified air defence’ – in addition to the NNbS programme and independently of the Air Force.[9] By 2023, it wants to have around 12 base vehicles (plus surveillance and command and control vehicles) equipped with a 30–40 mm automatic gun for air defence protection for the German units on VJTF duty. The ‘qualified air defence’ project currently covers a single brigade but, according to the Army’s long-term plans, every combat battalion should include an air defence platoon of this kind. There has been media talk of integrating the Boxer armoured fighting vehicle with different weapon stations (e.g. made by Rheinmetall or Kongsberg) and potential use of Airburst munitions."
Szóval fejlesztenek egy új 30-40 milis légvédelmi feladatokat ellátni képes járművet. Gondolom valami Gepard félét kell elképzelni.
Ptriotot leváltották MEADS-al. MEADS-ról ezt irja:
"In 2005, Germany (MBDA Deutschland), the United States (Lockheed Martin) and Italy (MBDA Italia) established the MEADS programme to develop a new medium-range air defence system. Eight batteries of the new system were expected to have replaced the Patriot batteries by 2018. The MEADS was to be integrated with Germany’s short-range IRIS-T SL air defence system (range to 40 km, altitude to 20 km) in order to reduce operational costs, since the PAC-3 MSE missiles are quite expensive. In 2011, the US withdrew from MEADS, but the programme continued until a prototype was ready in 2014. Germany chose not to buy the system in isolation but in June 2015 it decided to use the R&D results of the MEADS and IRIS-T SL programmes to build a German medium-range air defence system, the so-called TLVS (Taktisches Luftverteidigungssystem), while making a reservation that the contractor would have to meet certain conditions.[14] For now, Germany is the only state interested in a MEADS based system: France and Italy use the SAMP/T system, and Poland, Sweden and Romania have opted for the Patriot system (in different configurations)."
Ez alapján én nehezen tudok nálunk elképzelni MEADS-ot. Halott a program elvileg.
Kis és közepes képesség az írják teljes újjáépítést igényel.
"The Air Force’s sole air defence missile wing has only one air defence missile group equipped with these kind of systems (see the map). It has four stationary MANTIS systems to protect military bases against RAM threats (rocket, artillery and mortar attacks) and, most probably, one LeFlaSys Ozelot battery (three platoons with Wiesel 2 vehicles equipped with Stinger launchers) to protect mobile forces.[1] In the absence of a successor system, the service life of the LeFlaSys Ozelot system has been extended to 2025 (it was originally due to expire in 2018)."
Szóval nem állnak valami jól. El is döntötték gyorsan hogy kb 20 db a kis és közepes hatótávolságú légvédelmi rendszer vesznek.2018 áprilisában indított a hadsereg 1 programot melyben meghatározták a technikai elvárásokat erre lehet pályázni eredmény hirdetés 2019-ben várható.
"The German-French MBDA Group, which has offered the French Mistral 3 missiles for very short-range air defence (range up to 6 km, altitude to 4.5 km) on wheeled platforms, might be one of the programme’s contractors. MBDA has also suggested integrating into the NNbS programme the IRIS-T SL missiles and launchers made by Diehl Defence for short-range air defence (range to 40 km, altitude to 20 km) on wheeled or tracked platforms. Moreover, MBDA has been developing laser weapon systems, which the German Defence Ministry wishes to integrate into the NNbS programme at a later date.[6] Rheinmetall, too, has offered the Bundeswehr its solutions for the NNbS programme, but without making public any detailed information about the offer.[7]"
Szóval MBDA a Mistral 3-at gurulós platformra integrálva ajánlja rövid hatótávra, közepes hatótávra pedig az IRIS-T SL amit a Diehl gyárt. Picit meglepődtem hogy MBDA próbálja eladni az IRIS-T SL-t mert nekem ez a CAM-ER versenytársának tűnik szóval picit utána néztem ennek:
https://www.mbda-systems.com/2016/05/20/ila-2016-new-systems-for-air-defence-and-guided-missiles/
Ezek szerint fejlesztettek erre is platformot.
Szóval Mistral 3 ebből nekünk már van. Egy részét magunknak "gyártottuk" a meglévő Mistral 2-ből Nyirtelken. Nyilván spekuláció a részemről de most valahogy azt az IRTS-T érzem esélyesnek.
Van a cikkben még 1 érdekes rész.
"Germany has committed to deploying a fully modernised brigade for NATO Very High Readiness Joint Task Force (VJTF) duty in 2023.[8] This means that its mobile troops need air defence protection against drones, low-flying helicopters and aircraft. For this reason, the Germany Army has been developing a smaller project known as ‘qualified air defence’ – in addition to the NNbS programme and independently of the Air Force.[9] By 2023, it wants to have around 12 base vehicles (plus surveillance and command and control vehicles) equipped with a 30–40 mm automatic gun for air defence protection for the German units on VJTF duty. The ‘qualified air defence’ project currently covers a single brigade but, according to the Army’s long-term plans, every combat battalion should include an air defence platoon of this kind. There has been media talk of integrating the Boxer armoured fighting vehicle with different weapon stations (e.g. made by Rheinmetall or Kongsberg) and potential use of Airburst munitions."
Szóval fejlesztenek egy új 30-40 milis légvédelmi feladatokat ellátni képes járművet. Gondolom valami Gepard félét kell elképzelni.
